Wednesday, January 1, 2014

QUARX


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Because Nazi loving con artists--and the people who helped them sell the "Truth" movement-- don't get to get away with it.

Everything changes...


Monday, September 16, 2013

Holocaust Denial BolloxThread Pt3 : reconstruction comments from pg 3

Read thread starter here:http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2013/09/holocaust-denial-bolloxthread.html

Comments from page 1 here:http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2013/09/holocaust-denial-bolloxthread-pt2.html

Unfortunately comments from second page don't seem to have been archived, so we skip to the third page:

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Col. Jenny Sparks



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Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Jew Hating??? and 9/11


hawkeyi wrote:


I've said this often and I'll say it again here... blaming 9/11 on Jews and Muslims is a losers script!

Thanks Jenny for posting this topic...


You're quite welcome. Your personal experience illustrates the problem perfectly.

And this issue is long over due to be exposed by TRUTHERS, not the usually right-wing, spin machine, Tory worshipping, hypocritical cronies..*koff* ScrewLoosethingy
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject:

Zan Overall is "trying to mix [Jews did 9/11] bollox in 911truth"
http://911blogger.com/news/2008-07-20/zan-overall-calls-michael-medved-show-re-ted-olsons-lies-transcript

See the first comment.

EDIT: just realized I mistakenly equated mixing "Jews did 9/11 bollox into 9/11 truth" with mixing "Holocaust denial bollox into 9/11 truth" in this comment as well- not that they're really all that different- one often finds the people doing one are doing the other, for instance- but it's important to be as accurate as possible, so I'm correcting my mistake.
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: "9/11 the open source investigation"

Saw this tweet this AM:

9/11 the open source investigation - http://j.mp/cWFXrG [ #p2 #history #falseflag ]


Who is this guy? He promotes Bollyn, Zionists did it, etc.


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Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject:

Alan Hart is "trying to mix [Jews did 9/11] bollox in 911truth"
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-27/journalist-alan-hart-interviewed-kevin-barrett-controlled-demolition-and-mossadzionist-israeli-involvement-911
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject:

Hi Erik,

Hart says what...where...and when?

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:33 am    Post subject:


John Bursill wrote:
Hi Erik,

Hart says what...where...and when?

Regards John

whoops; just corrected it:

Rancho Truth wrote:
Alan Hart is "trying to mix [Jews did 9/11] bollox in 911truth"
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-27/journalist-alan-hart-interviewed-kevin-barrett-controlled-demolition-and-mossadzionist-israeli-involvement-911

My bad; afaik, Hart has not tried to mix Holohoax bollox into 9/11 truth.

My mistake stemmed from repeatedly seeing the "Jews did 9/11" meme being promoted by many of the same people pushing the "Holohoax" meme.
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject:

Wow that freaked me out, I thought I missed something!

Hart is not an anti-Semite from what I can gather:)

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject:

This is my first post, so apologies if this is all out of line.

Yes holocaust denial should be kept seperate from 9 11 denial, but it is just as valid.

People deny the moon landing, deny Kennedy was shot by Oswald. How is holocaust denial any less valid than moon landing denial? Yes there is compelling evidence of the holocaust. There is also compelling evidence of the moon landing.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject:

10/10, this is some good trolling.
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject:


diggler2002 wrote:
This is my first post, so apologies if this is all out of line.

Yes holocaust denial should be kept seperate from 9 11 denial, but it is just as valid.

People deny the moon landing, deny Kennedy was shot by Oswald. How is holocaust denial any less valid than moon landing denial? Yes there is compelling evidence of the holocaust. There is also compelling evidence of the moon landing.


Assuming you haven't been 86'd already and can respond--why are you even writing all that shite? You look far too intelligent not to know how disingenuous you sound.

Honestly, I'm curious--why are you trolling so transparently? You're phraseology "9 11 denial" is straight from a fake debunkers playbook. But no "debunker", fake or otherwise, would argue holocaust denial is valid.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject:


Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:
diggler2002 wrote:
This is my first post, so apologies if this is all out of line.

Yes holocaust denial should be kept seperate from 9 11 denial, but it is just as valid.

People deny the moon landing, deny Kennedy was shot by Oswald. How is holocaust denial any less valid than moon landing denial? Yes there is compelling evidence of the holocaust. There is also compelling evidence of the moon landing.


Assuming you haven't been 86'd already and can respond--why are you even writing all that shite? You look far too intelligent not to know how disingenuous you sound.

Honestly, I'm curious--why are you trolling so transparently? You're phraseology "9 11 denial" is straight from a fake debunkers playbook. But no "debunker", fake or otherwise, would argue holocaust denial is valid.


I don't deny the holocaust. I don't deny the moon landing. I don't deny that Oswald shot Kennedy. I do believe Al Queda did 9 11, not the American government.

What I'm asking is how anyone can believe the holocaust took place (perfectly reasonable belief based on the evidence) yet deny Al Queda did 9 11 which also appears to be supported by the evidence. How you can be perfectly sane on the one hand, then run a mad conspiracy theory on the other?

We agree the holocaust took place and I welcome that. Do you agree the moon landing took place? Not everyone does, despite a lot of evidence.

If that is trolling, then I am sorry. I think it is a fair question.
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject:

I recommend not wasting any time on this one.










Friday, September 13, 2013

Holocaust Denial BolloxThread Pt2 : reconstruction comments from pg 1

Read Part 1 here:  
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2013/09/holocaust-denial-bolloxthread.html

After starting this anti-Nazi thread that was intensely ignored whilst at the same time collecting the usual lurkers,  various responses and non-responses on the Internet was noted by forum members:
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's trying to mix Holocaust Denial bollox in 911truth?


Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:
how they got past his killtownish-nasal, nails on blackboard voice to watch the other 6, I'll never know


Actually the youtube stats show quite an attrition rate.

Video 1 has 92 k views. The following videos, respectively, have 33, 21, 18, 14, 13, and 19.


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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject:

I can't stand holocaust deniers. Only someone so ignorant would deny the existence of such evil.
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:58 am    Post subject:


Arcterus wrote:
I can't stand holocaust deniers. Only someone so ignorant would deny the existence of such evil.


And only someone so ignorant of how unacceptable Holocaust Denial is in 911truth would keep blogging lies that we are all--deep down inside-holocaust deniers:

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2010/03/scratch-truther.html


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Sunday, March 21, 2010
Scratch a Truther....

Who is Adam Syed? He's a Cincinnati-based 9-11 Truther and violinist. And yes, he's a Holocaust Denier. Check out his review (Kameelyun) at Amazon of a book of Holocaust Denial.


Our resident Zombie posted the Amazon link a couple days ago
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1VME5U45TDZNG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

--and must agree with "Brainless" that it was illuminating reading--especially considering the company "Kameelyn" keeps these days.

Then sometime today Our Pat decided to blog about Holocaust Denial in 911truth again:

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2010/04/steven-jones-would-be-very-sad-to-see.html

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Tuesday, April 06, 2010
Steven Jones "Would Be Very Sad" to See Holocaust Denier Leave Troof Movement

Adam Syed, whose Holocaust Denial I discussed here, posted an April Fools' Day Prank on 9-11 Blogger this week, in which he "announced" that he was now an ex-Troofer. Professor Jones commented:

I figured it must be an April Fools joke as I read your name, Adam.

You know about explosive nanothermite -- something the debunkers shy away from.

I would have been very sad to see you go and leave the fray...


Now hyperbole and innuendo is Pat's normal shtick--along with a healthy dose of good old fibbing--and Pat himself might say but Hey, Jenny's always making digs I'm working with Internet psychos like Killtown, etc, etc--so it's all good, right?"

The difference Pat is known for explicitly reposting material obtained from Internet stalkers and known Crypto-Nazis.

Lets go back to 2006 and see what Brainless says about whoretown:

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/07/killtown-looks-at-flight-93-crash.html


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Friday, July 21, 2006
Killtown Looks at Flight 93 Crash Photo

Okay, I don't usually link to the conspirazoid stuff except to point and laugh, but this is actually a pretty interesting post by Killtown on the topic of the photo showing the explosion cloud over Shanksville after the crash of Flight 93. I suspect that the problem is related to pinpointing the exact location where the photo was taken and/or the effect of wind on the explosion cloud. I don't agree with his conclusion, but it certainly appears that he's done hard and honest work on this post; if more "Truthers" were doing that, their movement might actually be deserving of some respect.

posted by Pat @ 11:55 AM


Nice love letter, eh? Rolled the welcome mat out, so he did.

What follows in the comments is a mix of "you've got to be kidding, Pat" and various intellectual gymnastics that only make sense in thecontext of giving Killtown excuse to harass Val McClatchey some sort of back handed justification...


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At 21 July, 2006 12:37, Blogger Alex said...

You gotta be kidding Pat. Look at his conclusion! He says that the angle is wrong for the dust cloud to be at the site of the crater. Yet the only evidence of an explosion anywhere in the area is at the crater itself. So what exactly is the logical conclusion here? The government went and dug out a giant hole in the ground, scattered pieces of wreckage, and then lit it all on fire. After which they went to a totaly different site, and set off a massive explosion without leaving any telltale signs.

Yeah.


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At 21 July, 2006 12:56, Blogger Pat said...

I said I didn't agree with the conclusion. But I like the way he went about analyzing the data.


Why is this relevant? Because before this blog, Pat was well aware of Killtown's Holocaust Denial crypto Nazi shite-given he was informed of them in a link in blog comments he had to have read---

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/07/no-buildings-theory.html


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At 09 July, 2006 14:01, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Why don't you tell us where you think 6 million jews went, KKKiltown?

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7618


What is that? Three weeks before praising Killtown methodology? Now if Pat honestly understands Holocaust "revision" for what it is--and his semi constant attempts to paint the entire Truth Movement as Holocaust deniers implies he does--then why the fuck is he going to bother giving Whoretown kudos for any reason? Perhaps its becuse they're all right wing loons--And Pat aka Brainless is a right wing nut:

Delusions liberals control the media:

brainster.blogspot.com/2004/03/conservative-cocoon-mickey-kaus.html


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I see the potential of that developing on the conservative side. It's true we don't have control of the major media like the liberals, but we have developed our own alternative sources of media--talk radio, Fox News, conservative weblogs, sites like Drudge and Lucianne. I have been a long-time member of Lucianne and I absolutely love the site. It's one of my two or three most visited sites daily, and the first one I fire up in the morning.

Delusions there are a majority of "socialists" in the government:

brainster.blogspot.com/2009/04/spencer-bachus-right-on-principle-wrong.html


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Spencer Bachus: Right On the Principle, Wrong on the Numbers

There aren't 17 socialists in the US House of Representatives. My guess is more like 71. The House "Progressive" Caucus is made up of the far-left weenies in the House, like Sheila Jackson Lee, Dennis Kucinich, etc. Guess who founded it? The only socialist in Congress who admitted he was a socialist; Bernie Sanders.
- Pat, 12:25 PM


Tea Baggers are a completely real grassroots movement--I supposed he still believes in the toothfairy--

brainster.blogspot.com/2009/04/leftist-dolts-wrong-on-tea-parties.html


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Monday, April 13, 2009

Leftist Dolts Wrong on the Tea Parties

Their new meme of the week is that Fox News came up with the idea. Not so.

Here’s the nasty little bigot Jane Hamsher saying that the Tea Party protests are nothing but a Fox News/big corporation operation. And here she is again saying the same thing. Notice how she scampers away like a scared rat when someone asks her if she has anything close to, you know, proof.

Steve Benen’s on the same kick and he quotes Oliver Willis who put on his deerstalker cap and came up with, you guessed it, exactly the same conclusion.



If Hamsher, Benen and Willis are against it, it must be good because those idiots are always wrong. And yes, I am 100% serious about that; Hamsher and Benen are the biggest dolts on the left imaginable.



There's loads more--if you have the stomach. The fake truther disruptors are almost to a man --and woman-- "libertarians" from the far right or who are unabashedly promoting a rigt wng agenda--which amounts to the same thing. So--functionally--Patty is on the same idealogical spectrum as the fake truthers injecting all sorts of Ron Paul/ Alex Jones/Webster Tarpley garbage into the movement, relentlessly packaged as hyper Patriotic twaddle. All right wing loons hanging together.

"Screw Loose Change" is a scam, run by a rightwing con artist passing himself off as "debunker", happy to work with anyone in a misguided mission to exposed lies in the Truth Movement while making up and promoting lies himself and assisting Neo-Nazi Internet staking creeps. Even Whoretown himself has dropped the pretence, openly friending Right-wing debunkers on his Myspace,

What was that Pat? Did he say something?


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Retards like Jenny Sparks have accused me of association with Killclown and somehow being involved in the WQ2RX crap, but this is silly


Well, while Brainless continues to republish and host information obtained from the aforementioned crypto Nazi known as Killtown and the WQ2RX stalking network he managed, not only does that indeed make Pat involved, it makes him a collaborator with neo Nazi sympathisers.

Now I bet Pat will feel like that's exaggerating ...what did Pat imply about Steven Jones again, re the Holocaust? (And keep in mind, I'm much less impressed with Jones these days... )
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:16 am    Post subject:

Meant to archive these people's work, since they seem so proud of it--we wouldn't want to forget:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1VME5U45TDZNG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm


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Best introduction to the Holocaust Revisionism subject,
January 31, 2010
By Kameelyun
This review is from: Debating the Holocaust: A New Look At Both Sides (Perfect Paperback)
This book reminds me in many ways of David Ray Griffin's 9/11 books: Dispassionate, thoroughly researched, extensive footnotes and bibliography, and at the same time, extremely lucid and easy to understand. It serves as the perfect introduction to this controversy.

Up until the past year or so, I had assumed that every major tenet of the traditional Holocaust narrative was problem free; that there was no need to question on any level. Without thinking, I allowed myself passively accept the line that "holocaust deniers" are neo-Nazi, Hitler apologists engaging in the most egregious form of pseudoscholarship. But as I strolled the internet, particularly in the midst of doing 9/11 research (among other research), I was noticing an inter-site trend: Very educated, articulate, credible people who posted excellent stuff on other subjects, and some of whom were graduates of places like Harvard, were saying things like "The Official Holocaust Story doesn't add up." My first defensive reaction was to think, "Oh gee, has 9/11 truth opened your mind up so much that you now just assume each historical event to be a lie?" But I couldn't shake off the fact that the number of people questioning the details of the Holocaust on the internet was growing.

The one thing in the book I'm a bit puzzled over is Dalton's dismissal of Jewish revisionist David Cole as an "agitator." In the first chapter, Dalton breaks down the well known revisionists into two categories: 'agitators' and 'academics,' and he describes 'agitators' as people who seem more preoccupied with promoting their own work than in actually getting to the bottom of the truth. I find it very strange that Dalton would put Cole in this category. Once I learned from the aforementioned Harvard graduate that Cole was Jewish, I all of a sudden felt 'permission' to examine the holocaust critically; after all this did seem to destroy the revisionists-are-anti-semitic-bigots meme. And watching the video of David Cole's tour of Auschwitz and his interview with Auschwitz curator Dr. Franzicek Piper was one of the most enlightening things I'ver ever seen (you can watch it on google video or youtube).

In his concluding chapter, Dalton informs us that contrary to his expectations wherein all revisionist arguments would be decisively refuted, he actually found the traditional holocaust story "in tatters." The traditional account itself has been revised by mainstream historians to varying degrees, including acknowledgement of the non-existence of homicidal (as opposed to delousing) gas chambers at many camps where they were once thought to exist, but no longer. (It is a fact that ALL camps DID have Zyklon B 'gas chambers' for killing LICE IN CLOTHING... including the camps not claimed to have gas chambers for killing humans.) Even mainstream holocaust historians hold wildly different interpretations of the numbers of deaths at each camp. For example, take the Majdanek camp in Poland. At the Nuremberg trials, it was officially accepted by the tribunal that 1,500,000 people were murdered at Majdanek. However, by 2003, preeminent holocaust historian Raul Hilberg had revised this number down to 50,000. And each camp follows this trend, being drastically reduced down in numbers over the decades. It was once official orthodoxy that 4 million were murdered at Auschwitz but in 1990 that number was reduced down to 1 million. And so on and so forth. And the 'homicidal gas chambers' as murder weapon has been called into serious question by many people including, notably, German chemist Germar Rudolf, who is currently serving prison time in Germany for his research in which he concludes that these gas chambers, logistically, could never have served for the gassing of large numbers of people. Now, the casual reader might be reading these technical details and wondering "So what? Hitler's regime was still cruel to Jews nonetheless, gas chambers or no." This is true and no serious revisionist denies this. However, as Dalton says at the beginning of Chapter 1, the main "holocaust" of the mid 20th century was World War II, and there were sub-holocausts within it: the hundreds of thousands toasted in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Allied firebombing of Dresden, Hamburg and Cologne, et cetera. But it is "The" Holocaust which many historians say is the most unique of all mass murders, and they cite three reasons for it being different than the other mass murders of WWII and elsewhen: The "Six Million" number, the use of homicidal gas chambers, and the idea of a deliberate policy, from Hitler on down, to exterminate every Jew in existence. It is the combination of these supposed factors that has given Jewish people an extra amount of sympathy for being supreme suffers, and yes, this has in turn led to uncritcal, blind support to the state of Israel which itself engages in Nazi-like expansionist aggression on a daily basis against Palestinians and other Arab Muslims. In this way Zionism emulates Nazism in an extremely eerie way.

Finally, perhaps most intriguingly, the idea of "six million suffering Jews" goes back all the way to the very late 1800s and the New York Times repeatedly invokes this number, several times in several articles in the early decades of the 20th century, and the number has a very complex history.

For those who want to sift through the smoke and mirrors, this book could not be a more excellent place to start.


http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7618


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Killtown

Jul 7 2006, 02:55 AM

I was sent this link to watch. Very thought provoking:

The Truth Behind the Gates of Auschwitz

I've always had a problem with the claimed numbers of Jews that allegedly died there. I keep hearing "6 million" or "1.5 million." That alone is a HUGE discrepency. Some say the number was as low as 280,000.

Suspecting what the Israeli/Palistine conflict is really about, the strong evidence Israel was involved with 9/11, and seeing how 9/11 was faked in general, it makes me wonder how much of the Holocaust was true or not.

I'm not denying the Holocaust like some stupid nazi punk skinhead would, but just now question what was true and what was fiction.

WingTV seems to think the Holocaust was a major hoax like 9/11 was along with Judicial-Inc.

What I want to know is if there is a documentary that tries to debunk this or similar "holocaust revisionist" documentary? I'd like to see the other side other than the MSM holocaust information we've all seen.


And just for giggles some comments from the owner of "Jewmoonhoax.com":

http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm442/Jenny_Sparks/gret-holocaust1.jpg

http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm442/Jenny_Sparks/gret-holocaust2.jpg

http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm442/Jenny_Sparks/gret-holocaust3.jpg

Not so clever and subtle when one reads the crypto-Nazis together--a bit obvious they are--and always were--phoney.

Mind, there exist comments of mine at 911blogger where I defended two of these gits(didn't know about Kameelyn one way or the other then). Anyone can be fooled--once.

EDIT: forgot the wiki link for anyone who doesn't think there was a plan to systematically murder German Jews:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial


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I also want to refer here very frankly to a very difficult matter. We can now very openly talk about this among ourselves, and yet we will never discuss this publicly. Just as we did not hesitate on June 30, 1934, to perform our duty as ordered and put comrades who had failed up against the wall and execute them, we also never spoke about it, nor will we ever speak about it. Let us thank God that we had within us enough self-evident fortitude never to discuss it among us, and we never talked about it. Every one of us was horrified, and yet every one clearly understood that we would do it next time, when the order is given and when it becomes necessary.

I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, to the extermination of the Jewish people.

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Oh, dear. The webmaster of Jewmoonhoax.com isn't very happy, so I hear. Thinks he's being smeared and all. Well I'm not the one who wrote-- "there wasn't a plan to exterminate the Jews". Nor did I direct people to the "work" of David Cole.

See, this is what happens when he--and his website--have become friendly with crypto-Nazi cyberstalking trash.

We are back to code words and dogwhistle politics: anyone injecting Holocaust denial into the debate and trying to dismiss the politics linked to Holocaust denial is part of a right-wing, Nazi tolerant agenda.

They do not have to be Nazis themselves--which is worse in some ways because that means they just don't give a shite what damage neo-Nazis --or thier sympathizers--do.

Where Holocaust denial promotion is, it attracts Nazi sympathizers. Nazi sympathizers attract neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis inject violence into the mix and then there's a nice pool of touched in the head folks ripe to be manipulated into violence IRL.

Let's take an example of this pool: the chief moderator of Jewmoonhoax.com went above and beyond the call of duty to defend the non-existent anonymity of "Killtown's" girlfriend(Sorry, she goes on telly, gives permission to the TV crew to plaster Jennifer Wynhausen across the screen, you look a prat defending her). Not only was this boneheaded in the extreme, but it called into question just WTF is going on in Killtown's psycho 9/11 group? Answers may be forthcoming soon--now anyone who needs to knows exactly who he is. But what's more interesting than that is this close friend of Killtown's household:

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/07/13/olivia-bunn-hires-hitmen-to-rough-up-her-babys-daddy/

Pool of crazy people easily manipulated into violence? Check.
Different reasons, same mo. There are 911truth examples, but because of possible legal action, they can't be published at this time.

Now if you're running a website publishing and mirroring information obtained by Internet stalkers knowing full well it will be available to crypto-Nazi trash pretending to be truthers--who clearly are unhinged and are capable of violence(read anything written by "Ozzybinoswald")-that pretty much makes you a neo Nazi collaborator.

[Somewhat related--
Anyone knowingly inviting people to join a group with crypto-Nazi trash is, full stop, a witting collaborator with aforementioned trash.]

"Gretchen" can go stand in the corner with Pat aka Brainless.

The whining from this quarter is unbelievable. They make up lies about everyone at Truthaction, including the site owner, but bawl like babies when their own words are quoted back at them? What a bunch of cowardly toss pots.

What "gretchen" should do if he truly thinks he's being slandered horribly--instead of having a tanty online--is send the person he thinks is slandering him a notice to stop --IRL. Of course we both know how that would end for the bitch.

Moral of the story?

Don't use your site to help and protect internet stalkers.

Don't get in the business sharing and publishing information about activists( or anyone else)without consent, with known disruptors .

Don't work with and promote criminals.

And really don't get caught promoting crypto-Nazis or their shite.

And if you can't stand people talking about your CRIMINAL activities, either stop working with criminals or GTFO the Internet.

BTW: I have in my possession incontrovertible proof "Gretchen"s past MO exactly matches the WQ2RX gang. Would publish now--but a bit busy and the context is off topic. Besides, let the wee kunts sweat for a change...


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Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:
"Gretchen"


I was always partial to "Gustapo" but that's funny, too. To be completely candid, I really have to wonder how much this sleazebag's connections to the State Department/CIA play into his little Jew Moon Hoax Theater operation. Has he not been providing exactly what Cass Sunstein called for in his paper... for years now?


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Best introduction to the Holocaust Revisionism subject,
January 31, 2010
By Kameelyun


You mean Kameelyun, also "Adam Syed", on 911blogger?

Oh yes, here he is posting about it on blogger, another hidden post --

http://www.911blogger.com/node/22980/229632#comment-229632


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Wolfe Blitzer interviewed David Duke. Do you ban links to CNN because of that?

Great point.

PS I know what the Institute for Historical Review is, and the idea that it is a racist organization is as unfounded as the idea that all 9/11 truth activists are violent individuals like the Pentagon shooter. Just as the SPLC labels WeAreChange as a violent extremist group, hypocritical zionist organizations like the ADL and SWC sling the "anti-semitic" label on the IHR because it challenges various aspects of the traditional holocaust narrative, many of those aspects already themselves revised by mainstream holocaust scholars.

For my take on holocaust revisionism, go to the Amazon's customer review page of the book Debating the Holocaust and read the customer review by "kameelyun." This will be the last time I mention holocaust revisionism at 911blogger.
Submitted by Adam Syed on Sun, 03/21/2010 - 1:00pm




Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject:
My, my some disruptor nutters seem to be in a right tizzy over being connected to crypto-Nazis rubbish. Missed the fun I see--interesting how they popped up so recently.... but there's still laughs to be had:

I laughed my arse off for close to five minutes over this one. "My account was hacked, they wish me harm and yet somehow in over a year they never did more than post less than a handful of half hearted trolls?"

IS HE SERIOUS? HOW GULLIBLE DOES HE THINK PEOPLE ARE? LMAFO AGAIN!

Right--*wipes tears away* here's the "hacked" account:



For someone who "wishes Gretchen harm" this is the mildest hack I've ever heard of. No Vandalism? Didn't change the avatar, bg or deleted videos? Or upload others? And "anaphora"--who logs in regularly to their Youtube, still subscribes even though they must know its a "hacked" account?

But what is more phoney than all of this--the faggot comments are 11 months old. One of Gretchen's comments predates that by a month:



"gretavo



4 years ago
why is there a child narrating this video? seems like a lame plea for sympathy. people need to understand that no one denies Jews suffered horribly as part of the Nazi's policies. But there were no homicidal gas chambers or a plan to exterminate all the Jews. There was no human soap or lampshades or shrunken heads. Why invent those things if everything else was real? Nonsense--look up the work of Jewish revisionist David Cole."


The other blatantly phoney thing about this victim story is, after a year, he's made no attempt to get the account back. Most experts agree its very hard to hack sites like myspace, facebook, youtube--unless the "hacker" has access to the "victim". Most social networking site "hacks" are spiteful ex-boyfriends/girlfriends who shared passwords. And in most cases, if the person really wants to, they can get their account back.


But as far as wishing people harm, Gretchen would know--having registered a domain explicitly for the purpose of redirecting it to someone's url:








The domain registrar seems to be out of business, but THEIR registrar isn't--there are still records of who registered and who redirected that domain--if needed.

First rule of holes, Gretchen--when you're in one, stop digging.

Expect more whinging from this crypto Nazi bitch. That's another right-wing tactic--after they've made asses out of themselves--and been caught red handed--they try to be victims. Would work much better if there wasn't documentation Gretchen's site is used for:

Giving information to right-wing cultists and Internet stalkers, some of whom are known to use pedophile material.
Defending and protecting Internet stalkers
Endorsing criminals for public office
Make excuses for Holocaust denial claptrap

Did I miss anything?

And now they're victims? Boo sodding hoo.

BTW: Wonder how Mr. C.M.L. these days? Not having a good time I hear...


EDIT:

HELP GRETCHEN GET HIS YOUTUBE ACCOUNT BACK! YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE REGISTERED! GO TO THE SIGN IN PAGE, CLICK CAN'T ACCESS ACCOUNT
OR CLICK THIS LINK

https://www.google.com/accounts/ForgotPasswd?service=youtube&ltmpl=sso

HELP OUT HOWEVER YOU CAN! IF IT REALLY WAS HACKED, YOU'RE SPAMING THE HACKER--

IF "GRETCHEN" IS JUST CONFUSED, HE'LL BE SOON REUNITED WITH HIS ACCOUNT!

What a heart-warming thread--sniff....
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject:

More comments like the one at YouTube:

From http://www.911blogger.com/node/8025


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historical revisionism is like conspiracy theory

The term has come to be loaded with meaning it doesn't have. Just as conspiracies are constantly happening and being theorized about (by investigators like police detectives) history is constantly being revised--otherwise why would we need historians? To read the history that is set in stone?

As more people come to realize that there is nothing wrong with revising history, it becomes more important to apply the label "holocaust denier" to those who dare to question any aspect of what is known as "the Holocaust". The problem is that "the Holocaust" does not have a life of its own--it is a term applied to a series of events that involved tragic losses by Jewish people, among others.

To suppose that there is no need to revise the historical record of those events, or that anyone with an interest in doing so has bad intentions is to ignore the fact that the events HAVE been revised by mainstream historians numerous times, and always in ways that have made it less of a tragedy. Still a tragedy to be sure, but it is simply not disputed that the first accounts of Nazi crimes presented by the victors of WW2 were exaggerated.

Neither soap nor lampshades were made out of the bodies of the dead as was once believed. The number of dead at Auschwitz was revised down by several million in the 1980s. Facilities that were once claimed to have been homicidal gas chambers (at Dachau for instance) are no longer claimed by mainstream historians to have served that purpose.

The knee-jerk "you question it because you hate Jews" reaction quite frankly smacks of fear--fear that as the historical record is corrected the power of the narrative, in particular the support it generates for the existence of an apartheid Jewish state on stolen land, is undermined. Combined with the evidence of Israeli involvement in the events of 9/11 (the "Dancing Israelis") and in the coverup (Michael Chertoff is, after all, an Israeli) the existential threat to the state of Israel as currently structured is grave indeed, and justifiably so--hence the hair-trigger way some people have a certain reaction on the rare occasions when the subject comes up for discussion.

To learn more about these historical issues I highly recommend the work of Jewish-Canadian revisionist David Cole for the atheist view and Neturei Karta for the religious Jewish perspective. Though the mainstream press like to pretend that only David Duke types are interested in this research, that is simply not true, and saying so leads to needless harmful divisiveness over an issue that is of genuine importance to Jewish and non-Jewish people alike.

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Submitted by Real Truther on Sun, 04/22/2007 - 7:53pm.



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how do you explain that there are so many holocaust survivors?

If the Nazis meant to exterminate all of Europe's Jews then why didn't they just kill them? Why bother building prison camps, and feeding and clothing them? And believe it or not, Mr. Sensitive, my grandmother was half polish and I do have at least one relative who survived her internment in a Nazi prison camp.

Do you have a point that you're trying to make?

Submitted by Real Truther on Sun, 04/22/2007


BTW: concentration camps and slave labor camps are distinct from POW camps. Moron.


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a couple of points

What you're saying is that the 6,000,000 Jews that are alleged to have been killed (in homicidal gas chambers) were the ones who couldn't work? I find that a bit confusing.

I don't dispute that the Germans put people in prison camps and I don't find it hard to believe that those people may not have ever been released if Germany had not lost the war. It is also not hard to believe that the Germans would have agreed to release their prisoners if a truce had been declared. We don't know what would have been the fate of the camp inmates, in other words, because they were liberated. You would think though that when Germany knew it was on the verge of defeat they would have killed all their prisoners--if in fact their goal was extermination. No?

What is debated aside from numbers is the existence of homicidal gas chambers and oversized crematorium ovens (to handle the huge number of alleged victims). The gas alleged to have been used in these killings is Zyklon B. Zyklon B also happened to be the gas that was used in camp disinfestation chambers that no one denies existed and were in fact used for one reason alone--killing the lice that spread typhus. In fact even the mainstream narrative agrees that 95% of the Zyklon B used was for the documented delousing. While all the delousing chambers show telltale blue staining indicative of Zyklon B use, none of the alleged homicidal gas chambers show the residue.

I would ask you to cite what documents you refer to when talking about documented evidence of a plan to exterminate all Jews. And to link to properly sourced authentic pictures of either a homicidal gas chamber (with its location, i.e. which camp) and/or an oversized crematorium oven. Surely all of this evidence was photographed--where can we see the pictures?

And can I suggest that in general it is considered in poor form to post the exact same comment in at least three different threads in the span of several minutes? That is, by definition, spamming. And no Ningen, I don't mean you.

Submitted by Real Truther on Sun, 04/22/2007 - 11:11pm


Mind, Ningen is his own brand of prat, but I agree with his post in this thread about this "not being the place" for this discussion. Gretchen however was quite invested in keeping it going.


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I do refrain from

Using the example of the holocaust in relation to 9/11, even though there are many parallels. What I cannot allow is for CNN and others to dictate terms by inventing a problem that does not exist, prompting a reaction that is unnecesary whereby in response to CNN and ohers' bogus claim about the truth movement being anti-semitic people hijack threads in order to support their interpretation (flawed) of what the holocaust entailed.

If people insist on pretending that CNN is worthy of being responded to on this point then I will have to respond to what I see as more obfuscation and conflation. I am the third in line here--first CNN making bogus allegations, then those on this site who take CNNs bait in order to promote their view of the holocaust, then me explaining why those people are wrong.

I could of course talk about how the holocaust narrative in vogue today is one of many examples of how history is distorted by proponents of the apartheid state of Israel, how that deception supports the case that those who insist on perpetuating a racist state really have to work overtime to create justification for something as indefensible as the wholesale theft of land, etc., and how this reality makes it particularly interesting that there are so many Israeli tie-ins to the events of 9/11.

That people go to such lengths to prevent those parallels from being drawn says to me that there is probably something to it.

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I do refrain from

Using the example of the holocaust in relation to 9/11
, even though there are many parallels


LOL priceless. Remember--any one injecting Holocaust Denial--sorry-"revisionism" --into a debate is part of an agenda to make Nazi's and Nazi sympathisers feel welcome.


Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, dear...he's at it again..

THE LIES OF PAT AKA BRAINLESS OF SCREW LOOSE CHANGE

"I didn't know that about him[Killtown]"....I didn't see this back in 2006."

Yeh he did--in the comments of one of Pat's blogs--

Scroll down--Sword of Twittiness delivers the goods--

And notice right after a comment has been removed by a blog administrator. Meaning Pat or James read these comments , ergo they both knew about Killtown being a crypto-Nazi in 2006.

Better than that, Pat actually posts in the thread later on:

I've more screens for the next round of Patty lies...

So what's Pat playing at? Why does he feel the need to say "I didn't know I was helping a crypto-Nazi". Trying to work himself out of a tight spot after knowingly helping whoretown and various other fake truther Internet stalkers "KT" runs with? Pat helped spread the LIES that Kunttown's girlfriend was being stalked(the only people who ever pretended they believed this, were the same people protecting Killtown). Fact, anyone who helped spread those lies--and whoretown material-- is connected to Killtown and his gang at the hip. It is hilarious that even our friend Nico refuses to make excuses for whoretown any more. When Nico's worried about being discredited by someone, you know it's gotta be dire.

The right-wing nutter known as Brainster was never interested in "exposing the lies and distortions of the truth movement". Notice he never covered Mark Humphrey being attacked by Kunttown and his gang. This included death threats and videos with illegal content by Ozzytwat(but Pat's promoted Ozzytwat's vids in the past so, meh) Why? Because then Pat would have to link to all the places owning Killtown left and right at the time--some of them not even part of 911 truth. Why not? Should have been good grist for Pat Screw Lucy mill. Because Pat's job is to back up the fake truther Internet psychos, and that includes protecting them from REAL criticism/consequences. Pat did the same thing during Kennebunkport--he had to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover the fact TRUTHERS were holding Webster "the Larouche cultist" Tarpley accountable. It's also the same reason Brainless has never covered Killtown's harassment of Val McClatchey, something real "debunkers"(people who identify sincerely with the culture)--and real truthers--have no problem doing.

What do you want to bet Pat got that old Loose Change forum link lurking at Truthaction?

Pat is a fake and lame, lying, right-wing, crypto-Nazi collaborating, debunker wanna be clown. Have a nice day.

[Just an idea--instead of more lies--maybe Pat should email the people he's helped fuck with and see if there's a civilized resolution to the very tight spot he's worked himself into. Just an idea...]

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meh you're annoying nothing wrong with questioning or trying to find out more about anything we've been told including the hollocaust and of course people who are super racist and whatever are not good. but y'all just dont get it i promise you israel loves these guys cause they make any one that questions israel look bad. fact is israel mossad was the main force behind 911 and while our govt was complicit it was mostly zionists and aipac controlled polliticians and media who pulled off the cover up. mossad motto is by way of deception though shalt do war and how the heck do you guys never mention their obvious involvement considering the spies they had in u.s. , history of false flags, means and motive... israel is in control of our country obv and they want us to war for them
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0/10 troll harder next time


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Bold mine-


wathappent wrote:
meh you're annoying nothing wrong with questioning or trying to find out more about anything we've been told including the hollocaust and of course people who are super racist and whatever are not good. but y'all just dont get it i promise you israel loves these guys cause they make any one that questions israel look bad. fact is israel mossad was the main force behind 911 and while our govt was complicit it was mostly zionists and aipac controlled polliticians and media who pulled off the cover up. mossad motto is by way of deception though shalt do war and how the heck do you guys never mention their obvious involvement considering the spies they had in u.s. , history of false flags, means and motive... israel is in control of our country obv and they want us to war for them


Not here to promote a crypto-Nazi sympathetic agenda playing up to Anti-semites--oh no, of course not.


Sure, Israeli right wing politicians will paint themselves as victims--it's what right wing wackos do--attack and play the victim> SEE FOX News. But thanks to trolling bollox like this its almost impossible to hold Israel the COUNTRY responsible for its actions AS A NATION STATE. And sorry-- Israeli does not "control" the USA, any more than the Falklands "control" Great Britain. Now an argument can be made for Israel being a client state of the US empire-- but whilst having actual facts to support such a theory, it doesn't quite give the "jews are out to get us" spin you're looking for, does it?

But of course, you don't sound like you care about any of that. I'd guess what you're really upset about is a 911 TRUTH WEBSITE WITH MEMBERS NOT AFRAID TO CALL HOLOCAUST DENIAL WHAT IT IS--RIGHT WING CRYPTO NAZI RACIST TRASH.

And that calls for another pic, don't you think? This one can be a game--can you spot the crypto Nazis? [there's at least 3 in this photo--including "killtown"] Take your time! (The hilarious thing is Whoretown's group sent this pic to Truthaction themselves--not the brightest bulbs in the WQ2RX gang)


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Wednesday, September 11, 2013

Holocaust Denial BolloxThread: reconstruction pg 1 : NEVER FORGET

In this case, never forget that the 911 truth scammers knew damn well I wasn't an Anti Semite, Holocaust Denier or Nazi sympathizer and only a delusional fool would have carried on trying to recruit someone like me into this fraud and imagine there would never be consequences.

Ah well, suppose they have to have a hobby between pretending to care about Palestinians and warning people about the "imminent threat to Iran any day now"...for the last 5 to ten years.

This was a thread I started at the now defunct TruthAction forum to highlight Holocaust denial for the rubbish it is and to show how it had no place in a genuine activists movement. This is of course before behind the scenes associations of several groups of scammers were known, showing that truth movement wasn't a genuine activist movement, not then, not ever.

Also of historical note and archived are the people claiming to be "debunkers" who want to keep the public from being fooled...who read this thread and did and said nothing, like say, " Hey, Jenny, I guess now you're ready to see how the whole movement can be a Nazi con, and here's some proof: these people(--) and these people(--)?  Always having a go at each other?  Here's proof they work together..(......).  Glad you're finally snapping out of it."  <<<  from fantasy email from noted debunkers I never recieved.

Not to say I didn't receive informative emails and revelations.   Just not from "top" debunkers, who clearly have no interest in sharing real information as opposed to Nazi gossip.    But that's another story...
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 http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6456

 Who's trying to mix Holocaust Denial bollox in 911truth?



Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:46 am    Post subject: Who's trying to mix Holocaust Denial bollox in 911truth?

WARNING: DISTURBING IMAGES--I used the less graphic ones, but still...

In respect of the thread here
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6310&start=60
--what has gone wayyy off topic---I offer this alternative to track and discuss the idiots trying to inject Holocaust denial or sources from such "works" into 911truth activism--whether they be Neo-Nazi sympathisers or the few genuinely clueless and naive about the subject. Or you can just link to it the next time a crypto-Nazi arsehole tried to crash a thread about 911truth with Holocaust rubbish.

In this thread you will learn many so called "revisionists"--or sympathizers thereof--find this David Cole video, 1st in a series of 7 compelling--though how they got past his killtownish-nasal, nails on blackboard voice to watch the other 6, I'll never know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKHw0EZrqM

If you can't recognize Cole twaddle for what it is, hold that thought--DO NOT DRINK ANY KOOL-AID YOU MAY HAPPEN TO SEE SITTING NEARBY. Your judgement has been impaired. Instead watch this video to slap some sense into yourself:


[video url lost down memoryhole.  Will try to find later]


For those too lazy to watch while they lurk impotently muttering "censership" and "thoughtpolice" and "fuck I can't blog this--it'll make twoofers look good!"(that last will be "Brainless" of Screw Lucy), here are some highlights:

Dead bodies piled higgly-piggly: 



 Dead bodies scattered outside:




 You probably thought they were all in pits like this: 




 Turns out that's only when prisoners are strong enough to "work for their food". When the inmates got too weak, the Nazi guards just said sod it, and let bodies rot were they may. Not just outside, but some piled in "huts"(I assume this means the prison barracks): 





Now many Holocaust "revisionists" will tell you these are ALL victims of typhus. Yeh, right--or, at a random guess, STARVATION. For instance these folks--who could double for albino African famine victims and look well on their way to joining the dead in the background had the allies not arrived-- 





DO NOT HAVE TYPHUS. This is Typhus: 


 More on Typhus:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol3no3/raoult.htm
Yes, there was Typhus in WWII, on the field, in trenches and in prison/slave/death camps--but it was STARVATION that made people human skeletons.

Well, there wasn't enough food, some will whine. Hmm--these female guards seem to be doing fine--fact a couple could stand to help with the body moving: 






 Male guards look just dandy too--and these are official SS: 





 And what's that on that uniform collar? A skull? 



 Isn't that darling? Its as if THEY KNOW THEY'RE RUNNING A DEATH CAMP.

Nah...

And to the final feeble excuses--"well, there wasn't more food available"--
or some such--no one was trying too hard because this farm nearby was full of cows:




 And remember--all these images were taken at the same time--so those fat Nazis haus fraus were getting porky watching and listening to people DIE OF STARVATION NEARBY.

The Holocaust happened. Have a nice day.

This thread is dedicated to Patrick S. McNally, an alumni of "The Site That Shall Not Be Named", who worked tirelessly to inject Holocaust denial into every discussion on 911blogger that he could:

911blogger.com/node/4397
www.911blogger.com/node/3732?page=1
www.911blogger.com/node/5226

Where ever you've sodded off to, Mr. McNally, you and the rest of your kind can please stay there, you crypto-Nazi pieces of trash.

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:55 am    Post subject:

Repost for more context from

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37174


Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:
zombie bill hicks wrote:
He would be referring to the morons mucking up Jim's thread at blogger:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/23071

This is exactly the mentality that is ruining the truth movement. We are 100% doomed if the prevailing attitude is 'if you dont think CIT's bullshit, chemtrails, and no planes arent true, you support the official story'.

Why have moderation there at all? Seems to me that nearly anything goes. This is why invitations were given to the wtcdemo turds to come join in the fun at 911blogger.


Well, that's a little alarming to hear. A quote from one of those individuals:


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As for David Cole, he produced a very interesting video of his experience touring Auschwitz -- I'm away from my computer but maybe RT/gretavo can send you the link.


Reprehensor was wiser than I gave him credit for at the time. I have issues with him, but he recognized what some of us manipulated by naive fair minded intellectual ideals did not: anyone volunteering or excusing Holocaust denial/revisionism in any way, shape or form, is part of an agenda to make Nazis and Nazi sympathisers feel welcome in the name of "free speech".

And what really pisses me off is sods like these have infiltrated and compromised the debate about Israel's human rights violations. I don't believe this is an accident. Do the maths... if injecting and excusing Holocaust revisionism undermines effective political action against Israeli imperialism, who are these people helping? Not the Palestinians or any other Arab...

Compare David "I am a git" Cole's video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXKHw0EZrqM

to Memory of the Camps--real footage from the Allies liberating the camps:

 [still can't find old link, but this might be the same film:
  
Memory of the Camps Internet Archive.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq0px38Cwo4   ]


Any one excusing "revisionist" rubbish, will have no problem knowingly working with Nazi-sympathisers on a range of projects. Once you have Nazis sympathisers, you will have Nazis...and a host of other right wing bollox. Remember, they don't have to be Nazis themselves to do damage...they just have to hold the door open, with the excuse they are "defending free speech, against the thought police" and other blather...then kiss any credibility good bye.

And expect all the usual fun that right-wing fascist nuts bring to the party--to be directed at activists:

http://unfinishedlivesblog.com/category/neo-nazis-and-white-supremacy/
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/25/national/25assault.html?_r=1

Remember these pieces of trash claim to be educated about the risks of right wing activity--which means what they are doing --encouraging readers to see Jon Gold and others as agents and enemies to be targetted--is probably deliberate.
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