If this is it..“...Now you're pretending
That it's not ending
You'll say anything to avoid a fight...”
~mixed feelings re: 911truth
Part 3: Kennebunkport Hoax and WQ2RX: past and future attacks in 9/11 TruthThe Kennebunkport Hoax—a machination of Webster Tarpley—has been covered elsewhere:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/21/143911/917http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunkport-warning-hoax-controversy.htmlhttp://911blogger.com/node/11441To summarize in late August of 2007 Webster Tarpley, along with Craig Hill and Bruce Marshall, passed around a petition at an event in Kennebunkport pro-porting to be a statement denouncing the Bush administration, which was signed by many people in a crowded party like atmosphere. Prominent anti-War activists like Cindy Sheehan signed it only to discover there signatures being associated with a document none of them had seen; this document supposedly warned of an IMMINENT OMG FALSE FLAG THREAT—which of course turned out to be utter bollox. When a handful of women protested, Tarpley was to go on his radio show denouncing them as “Dahliar4” instead of simply removing their signatures like a sane person. When 911truth activists called Tarpley on his BS, a nasty harassment campaign now known as WQ2RX fired up targeting anyone who challenged the authenticity of the Kennebunkport Warning. The known participants and supporters of this harassment campaign:
Webster Tarpley, Bruce Marshall, Craig Hill, Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, Captain May, Morgan Reynolds, and others.
Organizations: Actindepentent.org, CaptainMay's Ghost Troop, Rense, Portland Nuclear Inquest, Portland 911 Truth Alliance, Scholars for 911truth, 911movement.org.
Their backup was a legion of trolls using Rosalee Grable's “dog4tree” meme combined with a tagging system (invented by a lad named Spiney) called WQ2RX.
Now it should be clear to readers that anything Webster Tarpley involved in in, by definition, a Larouche PAC project. And once that's clear the techniques used in the harassment campaign make perfect sense-you have only to read accounts of people running afoul of the Larouche PAC:
http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.HarassmentSmearViolencehttp://www.publiceye.org/larouche/Mop-Up.html[NOTE-one reference is written by Chip Berlet. It maybe a good article but I would caution anyone about trusting Chip Berlet's motives. In the wake of the Kennebunkport Hoax, Tarpley accused many of us as working with Chip Berlet and the Ford Foundation, in spite of the fact I've never heard of him until then. He went so far as to get his friend Joe Azar to make this cartoon:
What is more, after reading my Dkos diary, where I openly wondered if Berlet was part of the harassment campaign, instead of explaining his sudden participation(remember I among others are supposed to be working with this guy), Chip Berlet left this tetchy prissy comment that was more worthy of a 12 year old. Not what I expect from a professional writer. And to top it off, one of the people who was to work overtime trying to protect “Killtown” and his Nazi bimbo girlfriend, tried to convince people Chip Berlet was a wonderful guy and “please don't have a go at him”. So yeh—be cautious about that one...]
But this didn't happen over night. The ground work was laid years ago as the culture of the 911 truth movement was being manipulated into accepting rubbish or outrageous behavior in the name of “truth”. This is definitely a cult attitude.
Wing-TV –via Lisa Guiliani, Victor Thorn , Micheal Piper--was one of the first smear artists in the 9/11 scene.
911underground.com/wingtv/
They were the first to have a go at Val McClatchey, laying the ground for Killtown's later infamous work.
flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/01/wing-tv-interviews-val-mcclatchey.html
They also pushed the idea Israel did 911. They also attacked Jon Gold and Janice Matthews as Zionist agents or summat. And they did much to pioneer the habit of having regular hissy fit fights with other ant-semite, nutters to “prove” they aren't actually working together. But a list of approved people should give and idea where Wing-TV is coming from:
http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/altmedia.html
So who did report this breaking news? To the best of my ability, I‘ve tried to track this all week.
- WING TV
- Frank Whalen – Republic Broadcasting Network – RBNLive.com
- Bill Brumbaugh – ProactiveNews.com
- Sam & Trish Britton – TheInformationCorner.com
- Vyzygoth (brief telephone interview) Vyzygoth.com
- Scholars for 911 Truth (on their website) Scholars for 9-11 truth.org
- American Patriot Friends Network (APFN)
- I posted it directly onto the Liberty Post forum website.
Thank you to all of the above for doing the right thing.
Leaving aside the de-merits of considering APFN in any way “doing the right thing”, observe the year: 2006. This is the same year Screw Loose Change came into existence to echo the most outrageous rubbish in the truth movement and about Truthers. Nico's blogs were set up to be information feeds that people like Pat aka Brainster could use indirectly. Others started yahoo groups, gathering information on people interested in 911 truth for years. Rick Seigel help fund Nico's online activities and kept people like Pat informed. Concurrently, supposed “debunkers” infested JREF and manufactured their own culture of mocking the “twoof” or “woo”. Other ground work included members of the Larouche extended family—and anyone working with Tarpley is part of the Larouche extended family—to get close to key 911 activists or survivors. For instance a woman called Melle Belle apparently did quite a feat getting Ellen Mariani's trust and many pictures—which she shared with known irresponsible personalities like Killtown and Ozzytwat at 911movement.org.
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2479/mellebellealbum.jpghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9843/mellebelle.jpgMeanwhile, there were people at 911blogger—among them Amy Sasser, “LEH”, “Anaphora”, and “Sai Girl” making friends with regulars, gathering and sharing information about people with the network. [IMO females were used to get to the mostly male population: on political forums the most active users are assumed to be male. OTOH, when applied to same-sex and/or platonic targets, this op backfired with catastrophic results] The previous year, 2005, was mostly quiet disruptor wise. In 2006 something changed and someone got serious.
My personal suspicion is that for all the attempts to infect 911truth with a culture of crazy, in spite of all the people placed very carefully as “leaders” to herd people, in 2006 is was clear 911 truth was threatening to get out of control. Alex Jones was being an ass true, but there were also masses of people independent of the Alex Jones “thang” who were making a serious go at being an effective political force with the rest of the anti-war movement:
2004
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9571/911protesters20041.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/204/911protesters20042.jpghttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6754/911protesters20043.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5120/911protesters20044.jpg2005
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7226/911protesters20051.jpghttp://img692.imageshack.us/img692/773/911protesters20052.jpghttp://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8681/911protesters20053.jpgNote the 911 activists were mixed in with other anti-war protesters and no Alex Jones bs in sight.2006--Enter right wing volunteer bloggers Pat and James –and others--to mock the “twoof” movement and anyone in it under the cover of “journalism”.
I suggest information was consolidated by certain parties and a plan of attack was formulated to set up peace activists leaders long before the Kennebunkport Hoax. Pro Tarpley material was pushed aggressively to get as many virtual footsoldiers—at the very least directing people to his site to mine data of anyone downloading his “free” book. (Nope, nothing's free. Sorry.) The more people in the truth movement emotionally invested in his material, the more people that could be counted on to reactively defend his attacks against peace activists, threatening “others” and anyone else. Waiting in the wings of course were people like Screw Lucy, to leap to the defense of Tarpley's targets, never mind in the case of SLC, being Republican goons, under any other circumstance Pat and James would happily mock Cindy Sheehan and anyone protesting the war. Also waiting in the wings was the WQ2RX/ and animal4shrubbery videos to harass and make an example of anyone trying to muck things up.
But it didn't play out that way.
Instead it was 911 truthers who took Tarpley to task for attacking the four peace activists from word go.
"Screw Lucy" had to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover the issue, because that is NOT the kind of story—Truthers being responsible—they want to cover. But the story was too big to ignore. All of Tarpley's goons, including his publisher, were forced to play defence. As an extreme measure many radio archives were either deleted or restricted to hide evidence of the harassment and calls to hunt people down—calls made by Captain May, Jim Fetzer and Webster Tarpley himself. In one case Kevin Barrett attempted to suggest there was no such thing as a WQ2RX harassment campaign. And-very telling—at the height of Tarpley's Kennebunkport hysteria, it was the 2007 9/11 anniversary at ground zero, and a person who was there reports a sizable presence-- in the form of vending tables and leaflet hand outs—
of the Larouche PAC on the streets of New York City.http://www.truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6063Thus it is not a stretch to assume some of the organized harassment in 911 truth has its origins and is supported by Lyndon Larouche's PAC, through various individuals and front groups.Even though the attempt failed to divide activists like Cindy Sheehan from 911 truth, the cumulative effect of all the right-wing rubbish took its toll. Pointlessly, the harassment campaign—attacking people as Al Qaida agents tagged with WQ2RX was given the green light. This campaign has done more harm than good to the people behind it, resulting in a big plate of karma being fed to its top trolls. IMHO, this was revenge, pure and simple—any intelligent manager would have axed it and counted themselves lucky and moved on to the next project. Instead it cost them-- at last count – about two websites, three email lists, the destruction of their prize troll and any shred of credibility they still had. More on that later.
The logic behind the attacks and the FutureThis was already being worked into the manufactured culture—the idea disagreement meant a threat TO ALL YOU HOLD SACRED. I confess I got suckered into it re the issue of no-planes—many people did. There is a renewed attempt to resurrect this meme. I strongly suggest people resist this urge—it only helps the manipulators find new foot soldiers for their next wave of attacks. For instance CIT is currently being slagged as no-planers as a reason they are rubbish. This is not accurate.
The reason they are rubbish is because they are manipulative toerags who themselves refuse to agree to disagree, refuse to admit when they are wrong, suggest witnesses and activists are agents and started a “hit list” worthy of Killtown's old forum. In other words it is their behavior as WQ2RX stalker-lite that discredits them, not their theories. Fail to get this correct, 911 debate online will roll back to the worst of 2007.
Or 2004. This is not a new tactic. Observe what happened to one man who questioned the history of the activities of a supposed activist whose father worked for the state:
You want to play dirty Stevie?
por Gus Wednesday, Dec. 08, 2004 at 3:47 AM
You are involving family in this?
Well, you made the rules. I play by your rules and I play your game.
The father of my accuser is named [XXXXXXXX] and his wife is [XXXXX].
[XXXXX] Ave.
[XXXXX]
[XX], [XXXXX]
USA
Let us involve our families in this private war shall we, is this what you want?
You leave my family out of this and I will do the same for you.
I think it is better that you say no more. Go back to your life and do not meddle with things you are too small to comprehend.
Understand?
[personal information removed by me]
The piece of shite who wrote this also runs the site “jewmoonhoax.com” and conveniently glosses over the fact his father, being a diplomat, is a
public figure and
therefore having questions put to or about his political ties and activities is perfectly appropriate. OTOH this other lad's dad is NOT a public figure, has no official political activities and is suddenly the target of a stalker(Gus) solely because he's the father of someone who said “No” to a US contractor when asked to help spy on people.
[see comments at http://911blogger.com/news/2008-08-08/darpa-linked-cycorp-predicted-anthrax-attacks-6-months-they-happened ]
Anyone on the receiving end of the WQ2RX harassment will recognize the MO. This comment was posted at pr.indymedia.org and retrieved from cache connected to this article:
http://pr.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/5817_comment.phpThe Gus comment was erased by the moderators for obvious reasons. So anyone defending "Gus" as being mis-understood and snitch-jacketed is full of shite.
His MO in 2004 exactly matches the Dog4Tree/WQ2RX/larouche attacks. Making his support of people in the thick of that event no mystery. In such light, it is perfectly reasonable to assume he—and anyone working with him—is part of a similar stalking organization in sympathy with disrupting activism, especially considering the crypto-nazi shite he pushes.
But back to the logic in the attacks. Whatever one thinks of No-planes, IMO the concept was pressed into service to form a rationalization for the unethical online activities that followed. While no reason prevents a sincere no-planer from sharing most goals of 911 truth(after all, even if the flights were not used as the government reported, the people on those planes wherever they went are dead—and are still victims of 911), there is a different, nasty string of logic that apparently justifies attacking victims families some fake Truthers who advocate no-planes engage in: “If there were no planes, there are not only no hijackers, but no victims, and anyone claiming to be a survivor is really a government perp making loads of cash and we can have a go at them to our hearts content.”
As bad and heartless—and pointless—that is, the new meme is worse: there were no victims on 9/11 whatsoever.
IMHO this is the single biggest danger and PR disaster waiting to happen in the future of 911 truth. I hope discussing it on the record will mitigate the worst of what I think is coming. What this means is, for those connected to the Larouche PAC and working for the harassment machine,
it is open season on the survivors of the 911 attacks.That said, the source of this new rubbish: septemberclues.info and affiliated forum reality_shack and their “vicsim report”, has been low key after an initial flurry of “news”. However since “going away” has not been observed in this group's behavior, it is safest to assume this tactic has simply been delayed as opposed to abandoned. While they exist it is only a matter of time before the harassment of a victims family becomes news and “proof” all “twoofers” are dangerous nutters who hate America or summat—and probably timed with some crucial event.
I strongly suggest to all 911 websites who consider their mission to be both educational and politically active to publicly repudiate the Vicsim Report in the strongest terms. At the very least it will weigh search engines in favor of sanity and show at a glance the real truth movement does not support that rubbish.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure....and such thinsg are not new to people genuinely opposing a corrupt state. If this had been done at the first sight of neo-nazi bollox infecting 911truth, we wouldn't still be mopping up Holocaust denial bollox...
Of the attackers: Victims or Volunteers?This is directly related to “cults and cultures” but I ran out of space. But this needs to be made known: while most participants in the sub-culture of 911 truth are volunteers,
a handful may very well be pressed into service, now virtual prisoners of their circumstances—which may be indistinguishable from a destructive cult . While it is true many may have initially volunteered, this doesn't make their situation any less dire—after all, the should be free to snap out of it and get a clue, as well as being free to make royal arses out of themselves. Many of you will be less than sympathetic, but no one—no one—should be forced to push a position against their will. I would ask people to look out for signs the following people might be asking for help, or –in the case where they are surrounded by criminals—to try to contact their relatives PRIVATELY and inform them of the situation. If any people might have fallen prey to cult activities in 911 truth the following people show possible signs:
Nico Haupt:
I'm going to say right off I have no personal grudge against Mr. Haupt. I see now most of what he's done he's been forced to do. I still hold people using him and taking advantage of his situation in utter contempt(Paula Gloria, Patrick Curley, Rick Seigel). Mr. Haupt appears to have come to the States under the idea he'd be an avant-guard artiste, then pressed into service as the front-man and face of disinformation by a collection of interests including Larouchites and “Libertarians”. He was also used as a conduit to funnel information about activists to criminals and stalkers. It is clear he is no longer in control of his situation—he has said he's finished with 9/11 truth. I take that to mean the people using him no longer feel as safe and cozy as once they did. (Hint: during the time Nico was put up to reporting Truthaction as a terrorist organization in late 2007—among other things--, Mr. Haupt was using Paula Gloria's ISP. That can't end well...for Ms. Gloria)
I'm not saying don't confront Nico's BS, or even himself –but be aware you are not dealing with him, you are dealing with the product of manipulation and abuse. Yes, abuse. Someone went to a lot of effort to destroy his life to make him a tool—those people need to be held responsible.
Webfairy: IMHO this is a good example of someone who volunteered and now is probably stuck. I have far more personal animosity for her, because she's chose to dance with the Devil and was cheerful about stalking people. However, she's getting up in years and may now be completely dependent on the same nasty people who supported her for so long. If these people are her sole financial support in her autumn years, it looks grim. I'm guessing shelling out for elderly care is not high on the list of priorities for her Übermensch worshipping “Libertarian” pals. I've not seen or heard about her—save for a radio interview—for months. Normally this would be a wonderful thing, but given her cohorts maybe not so much. Yes, she might deserve many things, but as human beings we don't let people be abandoned and neglected. Not saying anyone should be mates with her—just contact social services if she appears to be exploited or confined against her will.
Judy Wood: IMHO someone who did not have a choice. More needs to be known about this coma:
http://www.clemsontalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24591“IronSnot02-04-2007, 05:29 PM
Thanks to those of you who've answered my questions. It's appreciated. I'd still like more info if somebody has it. I'd like to hear more about 'her story' which I gather includes being in a coma for 6-10 years. Also after watching that video, I have lots of questions about the validity of her scientific background and if anybody wants to address this, maybe they could email me.(stealthisnametwo@yahoo.com)”
“Booyah
02-04-2007, 08:20 PM
Haha. I had Judy Wood for Statics back in those dark engineering days. I always thought she was crazy. She told us she was in a coma for ten years, and I still don't think she's all there.”
I remember someone trying to convince me Judy was mentally ill. To be fair, anyone in a coma is going to be scrambled for a while. But I've seen a video from one of Judy's lectures a year ago, and she seems perfectly sane. Well, you know, apart from the space beams...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6714196008143117547#A bit of speculation: you've been in a coma, you've just got out, but your benefit is getting low. If you don't have therapy you'll be a virtual basket case for the rest of your life. A benefactor comes out of the woodwork, offers to take care of everything, in exchange for your indefinite participation in a little project. Nothing illegal, strictly speaking.
What would you do? If anyone might be in danger, its Judy and I'm hoping putting the idea out there with act as a deterrent. The Judy Situation is IMHO proof Jim Fetzer is manipulative scum. Anyone who knows Judy's relatives please inform them of her questionable situation if they don't already know. And don't feel bad about continuing to slag off Judy's theories—they ARE stupid, but they probably aren't hers in the first place.
Maxeem: This young man has been set up as a fall guy by :(www.youtube.com/user/simonshack); he comes from the Minnesota Area. He may be a prisoner in a gilded cage.
To his family: someone needs to check on his situation, especially if he lacks the means to leave at anytime. To find him: “All roads lead to Rome.”If you see any of these people—or people in 911 truth acting similarly in similar situations, be aware you might be dealing with a genuine cult/hostage situation and not just the usual volunteer troll. Be prepared to contact the authorities, either for your safety or theirs.
Also at:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6550http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-28/if-itpart-3-kennebunkport-hoax-and-wq2rx-past-and-future-attacks-911-truthhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/28/870905/-If-this-is-it...Part-3:-Kennebunkport-Hoax-and-WQ2RX:-past-and-future-attacks-in-9-11-Truthhttp://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=48dfd02b9c629380dd10754c0bad109b&showtopic=1392
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3396907/Next:
If this is it...Part 4 – 9/11 Truth and Nazis among us—The grain of truth in the lie
Previously:
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-2-cults-cultures.html
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