Let's be clear about one thing:
this happened
AFTER Mr. Espada came up with this not-so-bright idea:
Espada's Not Bright Idea
Mr. Espada has been snitch-jacketing people for years. He's finally called on it and his fans start whining? It would be nice if Mr Espada could impress on his fans to please stop lying about the order of events.
Also, unless you can prove someone has published their own in formation in connection with their activism no one else has a legal right to publish it. Particularly an organization who has ample liquid assets. But hey, one less dodgy company will not go amiss. And information posted by stalkers only makes one look less credible than one already does.
And yes, Mr. Espada has published his own information in connection to ALL his activism voluminously and repeatedly over the years. Just Google his name.
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An example of dubious credibility--
One of Mr. Espanda's fan's in particular seems to be confused about what exactly happened to them in 2007:
What they email back when someone cared enough to warn them:
Oct 06, 2007
Thanks -- yeah, I came across that earlier today. It's not just my name -- it's pix of me, probably from the rally last weekend. I remain unimpressed ;)
When asked if they knew who took the picture-
October 8, 2007 10:58 AM
This had to have been from the anti-war rally -- the only day I've worn earrings since DRG. *Not* a good picture of me!
At 911Blogger
10/22/2007 - 10:20pm
Speaking of Mr. Espada's misguided fans and moderators--don't trust them.
For instance, one was spreading wee lies that I was stalking them. Whilst following every bloody post I made, everywhere. Thanks to some people's help, I have the raw records:
A small sample:
For instance, one was spreading wee lies that I was stalking them. Whilst following every bloody post I made, everywhere. Thanks to some people's help, I have the raw records:
A small sample:
| 11th August 2008 | 20:23 | 911blogger.com/node/17033 |
| 8th August 2008 | 16:14 | 911blogger.com/node/17033 |
| 21st September 2008 | 17:37 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&start=270&sid=926f241b429837113481a8cc3ff8fa6c | |
| 21st September 2008 | 17:38 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=255 | |
| 21st September 2008 | 17:38 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270 | |
| 23rd September 2008 | 07:39 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&start=270&sid=84714be84c91fa9873a68a0e84df04a7 |
| 15th November 2008 | 11:29 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3131&sid=3bd01b9954bd73a0768828d7d081a34f | |
| 17th November 2008 | 07:48 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3131&sid=dc5bbab2f6965ca0cf11ec067c68987e |
| 15th February 2009 | 17:33 | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5006 |
| 26th March 2009 | 14:10 | | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5006&sid=af4083720b272592d0921d27902d041c |
| 26th March 2009 | 07:57 | | truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5006&sid=1336843d7bc4bde7e2fbe56453189515 |
| 28th July 2009 | 18:00 | www.911blogger.com/node/20458 |
Word to the wise--generally speaking, when claiming one is being "stalked" online by someone, best not to be caught following that person around like a puppy nonstop.
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An example of dubious credibility--
One of Mr. Espanda's fan's in particular seems to be confused about what exactly happened to them in 2007:
What they email back when someone cared enough to warn them:
Oct 06, 2007
Thanks -- yeah, I came across that earlier today. It's not just my name -- it's pix of me, probably from the rally last weekend. I remain unimpressed ;)
When asked if they knew who took the picture-
October 8, 2007 10:58 AM
This had to have been from the anti-war rally -- the only day I've worn earrings since DRG. *Not* a good picture of me!
At 911Blogger
10/22/2007 - 10:20pm
in my case, it was after I was out in public as a 9/11 activist that my image and name were used in a spate of nutso psy-op videos, complete with slander (that I am a paid disruptor) and a veiled threat against my family. (I was the emcee for the Portland 9/29 anti-war rally -- I wore a Truthaction tee shirt and made several statements about 9/11 truth from the stage. I really think someone doesn't like the idea of 9/11 truth working effectively with the anti-war movement.)
So, anyhoo, is that part of your plan? Get out in the streets then get threatened and then get harassed, but don't expect help from the rest of the 9/11 truth movement because it's a waste of their time to listen to your sob story?
Truthmove.org
I'd just like to say that thanks to this cartoon, I am now featured in a Nico Haupt video "mash-up." I think we're all accused of working for al Qaeda -and/or a "taskforce" (oh no! not a taskforce!)
I certainly agree that they are demented but I think they have a pretty limited audience. I think Nico would like us to be so offended or threatened that we would consider legal action, but I'm not.
at truthaction.org
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:38 pm
Having recently been the target of freaky attempts to intimidate along with my friend by seeing our personal information posted online, I want nothing to do with this sort of tactic. The fact that I have been subjected to MORE of this crap because I am being lumped in with these Authority folks is just one reason.
At 911taboo
Mar 30 2008, 08:32 AM
Last fall, someone took my picture (and a god-awful one at that) at a Portland anti-war event and used it in one of those freaky YouTubimal videos. I have a vague recollection of someone taking it, but I can't remember who or whether it was someone I recognized.
Mar 30 2008, 08:59 AM
Yep, mashed. It was on several of those channels and featured "w2qrx" prominently -- as in, accusing me of being a Portland w2qrx agent. Whatever -- I was just irritated that the photo of me was so bad.
Yes, all these statements were made by the same person. Bit interesting months later their memory of who was photographing them seemed to improve slightly...or their selective amnesia about being "subjected to this crap".
The only one explanation for these "I'm not concerned--oh wait I am--but I'm not going to do anything about it" statements--they knew very well who was doing it, worked with them, and did not want them caught. In the real world, people who really believe they are being stalked tell the police--they do not play games with other people's concern.
It hard to keep track of all the lies... Now this person is too deep in and defending a man who's only explanation for screwing with people in 2003--something he does to this day--is to echo KOBEHQ accusation the Mr Devoy is CRAZY. How is Espada so sure--if he doesn't know anything about it? Wouldn't the more logical response be--"I have no idea what's going on there"? Instead of echoing the KOBEHQ party line? By people who post things like--
"Come on stevie--let your manic depressive state take over"
And how did Jennifer Wynhausen --(interviewed at 1:05)
--aka the 911stalker-- know Espada's moderator was screwing with Mr. 6199 at 911taboo?
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/911-stalker-update-its-not-nico-but-he.html
Or that it was their intent to frame me for stalking? After all the shite Jennifer put Mr. 6199 through--that was beyond dead nasty. There is no other way to explain this behavior except that this individual works closely with Kunttown and associated stalkers, and sold truthers down the river for whatever reason.
It must be a Herculean effort of denial for this individual to convince themselves that--somehow--after being part and parcel of all this nastiness--they are still on the right side.
Unfortunately for them, everyone else can see otherwise--and has for some time. Dismissing the facts by claiming people are CRAZY won't work forever....
I'd just like to say that thanks to this cartoon, I am now featured in a Nico Haupt video "mash-up." I think we're all accused of working for al Qaeda -and/or a "taskforce" (oh no! not a taskforce!)
I certainly agree that they are demented but I think they have a pretty limited audience. I think Nico would like us to be so offended or threatened that we would consider legal action, but I'm not.
at truthaction.org
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:38 pm
Having recently been the target of freaky attempts to intimidate along with my friend by seeing our personal information posted online, I want nothing to do with this sort of tactic. The fact that I have been subjected to MORE of this crap because I am being lumped in with these Authority folks is just one reason.
At 911taboo
Mar 30 2008, 08:32 AM
Last fall, someone took my picture (and a god-awful one at that) at a Portland anti-war event and used it in one of those freaky YouTubimal videos. I have a vague recollection of someone taking it, but I can't remember who or whether it was someone I recognized.
Mar 30 2008, 08:59 AM
Yep, mashed. It was on several of those channels and featured "w2qrx" prominently -- as in, accusing me of being a Portland w2qrx agent. Whatever -- I was just irritated that the photo of me was so bad.
Yes, all these statements were made by the same person. Bit interesting months later their memory of who was photographing them seemed to improve slightly...or their selective amnesia about being "subjected to this crap".
The only one explanation for these "I'm not concerned--oh wait I am--but I'm not going to do anything about it" statements--they knew very well who was doing it, worked with them, and did not want them caught. In the real world, people who really believe they are being stalked tell the police--they do not play games with other people's concern.
It hard to keep track of all the lies... Now this person is too deep in and defending a man who's only explanation for screwing with people in 2003--something he does to this day--is to echo KOBEHQ accusation the Mr Devoy is CRAZY. How is Espada so sure--if he doesn't know anything about it? Wouldn't the more logical response be--"I have no idea what's going on there"? Instead of echoing the KOBEHQ party line? By people who post things like--
"Come on stevie--let your manic depressive state take over"
And how did Jennifer Wynhausen --(interviewed at 1:05)
--aka the 911stalker-- know Espada's moderator was screwing with Mr. 6199 at 911taboo?
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/911-stalker-update-its-not-nico-but-he.html
block me, that's fine. I thought you would like to(Note: the IP address this came from was the same both Killtown and Jennifer used at the time.)
know that your friends are selling you out, making you look like the
stalker. that would be your new found friend genghis and your bff
casseia
Or that it was their intent to frame me for stalking? After all the shite Jennifer put Mr. 6199 through--that was beyond dead nasty. There is no other way to explain this behavior except that this individual works closely with Kunttown and associated stalkers, and sold truthers down the river for whatever reason.
It must be a Herculean effort of denial for this individual to convince themselves that--somehow--after being part and parcel of all this nastiness--they are still on the right side.
Unfortunately for them, everyone else can see otherwise--and has for some time. Dismissing the facts by claiming people are CRAZY won't work forever....
