Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Lying with dogs at Waterloo

Most people know the phrase "If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas." But few of the people lying with dogs think about the consequences. Instead they make excuses.

"Nico has good information."
"I've never met Jennifer W in my life!"
"I've been really sick and haven't had a chance to follow all this."

I'll summarize the situation for those who honestly aren't caught up:

Activism in 911truth has been harried by a group of people who all claim to be different parties but share the same goal: to derail and disrupt any honest research or outreach. They do this by muddling the waters, spreading lies, dishonest arguments, infiltrating events with wooly thinking rubbish(shape shifting reptiles, etc), and when all that fails, they stalk and harass people who have been the most effective at disrupting and exposing these tactics.

The most outrageous example of this stalking came after Webster Tarpley's Kennebunkport Warning was used as an excuse to viciously attack Cindy Sheehan and her colleagues. Literally dozens of psycho videos under the tags of wq2rx attacked 911activists claiming to expose them as Al qaida terrorists. The making of these videos has been traced to Killtown's associates Webfairy, Spiney, Fred and Ozzy bin Oswald. In the case of the last three, the videos often include a healthy dose of pornographic imagery.

In the case of Ozzy bin Oswald--creator and propagator of the most vicious attack videos-- among the videos he claims credit for and which have been propagated by these parties has been found to contain sexualized images of children, one of which can only be described as child pornography.

I won't give a live link or specify the stills in question; you can investigate yourself:


There was a copy at Youtube, under the cow4grass channel, but its been removed for violating TOS. I don't know why the copy at Livevideo is still up, but we can do something about that:


I truly hope it is no worse than Ozzy Bin Oswald swiping old illegal images from the Internet, but God only knows.

First lets be clear: Ozzy bin Oswald is not part of 911 truth. Like Killtown he is a stalker who pretends to be a truther. Let's look at Ozzy's supporters:

Webster Tarpley:


he was expected to be the direct beneficiary of the wq2rx attack videos. His public attacks against prominent truthers failing at the 6th anniversary, videos like these were propagated everywhere:


apparently from another source. This is called an asymmetrical attack. But the connections are not hard to make if you have Tarpley, Fetzer and May shrieking in chorus on radio to hunt people down.

Mr. Tarpley, if you lie down with dogs, expect to get up with fleas.

Captain May:


May is the wanker obsessed with numerology and "The Jews" who worked with Tarpley and Fetzer to prop up the Kenebunkport Hoax. Ozzy is part of his Ghosttroop:


May also runs the group Portland Nuclear Inquest where Ozzy's work has been promoted by Amy Sasser and Patti Woodward:


If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas

Nico Haupt, Webfairy and Paula Gloria: nothing more needs to be said.

If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas.

Killtown: Ozzy bin Oswald is very close to Killtown. He's a member of the forum 911movement.org. He defends Killtown without question. According to some is is more dangerous than Killtown because he does the nasty heavy lifting for Killtown when his manipulations fail. Killtown must know how bad Ozzy's material is, but he never challenges him and helps him propagate his videos indiscriminately. Killtown is certain to both know Ozzy's real life ID and protects him.

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

Pat Curley of Screw Loose Change: you read that right. Pat has propagated the wq2rx videos in the past. Keep in mind this is the man who builds his reputation on knowing all the dirt on the "twoofers". Recently, after Jon Gold debated him in good faith, Pat's closing arguments were to smear Gold by equating Gold's position with Killtown's. The irony is Pat Curley probably knows who Killtown is because a good debunker friend of his is good friends with Killtown's girlfriend. And this was true all during the time Ozzy's wq2rx videos were being spread by many parties including Screw Loose Change. To heighten Pat hypocrisy he was sniffing around Truth Action chat fishing for information on Dog4tree. Which he probably already knew. Rosalee Grable admitted it herself at Killtown's forum: Webfairy is Dog4tree.

Why didn't Pat notice the sexualized pictures of children in the wq2rx material? Especially before posting any of the videos connected to these people at his blog? He should have known better. He's staked his reputation on it. Its bad enough to be caught helping Killtown stalk people, but mirroring work connected to a man who includes sexualized pictures of children in his hit pieces--

At the very least this shows Pat is a fraud when it comes to research. At the most, I wouldn't want to guess. If he did know, he continued to help propagate their shite anyway. What does that say? Pat has a history of lying down with dogs; these fleas are never going away.

New addition: Craig Ranke and active participants of CIT, who have adopted many "wq2rx" tactics.


If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

Following Ozzy bin Oswald's supporters are the people who tried to distract from the seriousness of the situation, allowing it to grow more than it ever would:

If these quotes are yours:

"Ignore it, it'll go away"
"They just want attention"
"I'm just trying to help Captain May (fill in the blank)"

You all share responsibility for this. And you're all idiots. This could be part of a long term plan for all we know. While you lot foolishly promoted--or told us to ignore-- this bollox, it could have been picked up and used to smear some action that was working. And the very least going on record to denounce this shite would scuttle that. Time to decide which side you're on and start acting like it.

For those who passed information on to people know to be connected to Webster Tarpley, James Fetzer, Captain May, and the stalking crew, you share responsibility for the motivations of the sick sod Ozzy bin Oswald to make and propagate these videos in the first place.

One individual has admitted to passing information about truthers to Fetzer through Kevin Barrett. Information used in Ozzy bin Oswalds videos. Some of which include sexualized images of children.

Do you all see how this is going to work from now on?

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

In the real world good and evil are not black and white. But there are lines. Reproducing child abuse and exploitation is one of those lines. Whatever we believe happened on 911, human decency comes before any debate or issues. It comes before "planes" and "no planes". By encouraging and promoting the worst in human nature, the stalkers --fake "truthers" and "debunkers" alike --have attracted and encouraged the worst people--and possibly caused real damage in the real world. They all share responsibility.

"Debunkers", "fake no planes stalkers", ZIHOPPERS--it makes no difference what they say about anything or anybody now. Any PR cred they had is squandered. Any good information they have can be found by more reputable sources. They will always be the people who spread the works , rumors and material made by stalkers, some of whom used child pornography in their works. There is nothing they can ever say or do. The damage has been done. By their own claims of superior research, they should have known better.

This is their Waterloo.
They --and anyone who supports them--are dead to us.
Tell them good bye.

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