Col. Jenny Sparks

UPDATE ABOUT THIS BLOG: SUPPORT FOR 911BLOGGER REVOKED

2011-06-16T22:45:00.000-07:00

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INFORMATION IN THIS BLOG IS NOT TO BE USED IN ANY WAY TO ENDORSE OR PROMOTE STEVEN JONES OR HIS "OVERUNITY" SCAM. This blog is an archive but recent events require an update:

This post is in response to recent events where 911blogger.com has been used as a platform by users to promote and excuse perpetual motion aka overunity "research". Perpetual Motion is a well known hoax in the scientific community:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

911blogger also solicits funds. People making donations are cautioned against this as they may become victims of fraud if their funds can be proven to go towards promoting a hoax:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

Until such a time 911blogger bans Steven Jones and removes moderators supporting users endorsing the Perpetual Motion aka Overunity hoax , this blog does not support or endorse 911blogger.

For whatever that is worth. In the unlikely event 911blogger.com fixes this problem, this post will be deleted. Don't hold your breath.

For the record these are the only 911 websites that currently have my support:

truthaction

911truthnews

pumpitout

911taboo

yourbbsucks

Not because I agree with everything in them, but because I am convinced to my satisfaction they are “creep free”. That said, IMHO the “truth movement” as it was known is finished.

I am deeply offended that anyone would presume they could involve me, or my work in a scam passed off as part of the "truth" movement. And if there is evidence of fraud, I'll help anyone report the website to the FBI myself.

For more information:

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-10/responses-questions-regarding-thermite-nanothermite-and-conventional-explosives-used-wtc-destruction
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-26/earthquakes-clarification
http://911blogger.com/news/2011-04-18/experimental-science-rescue-911-cold-fusion-now-alt-energy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Hs64KznnQ

If this is it....Part 6 - Jenny's Eagle

2010-06-02T20:57:00.000-07:00

If this is it....

Part 6 - Jenny's Eagle

[This 6 part series was written in its entirety before Part 1 was published.]

"Here's forty shillings on the drum
For those who'll volunteer to come
To 'list and fight the foe today.
Over the hills and far away..."

“French Imperial Eagle (Aigle de drapeau, lit. "flag eagle") refers to the figure of an eagle on a staff carried into battle as a standard by the Grande Armée of Napoleon I during the Napoleonic Wars.

Although they were presented with Regimental Colours, the regiments of Napoleon I tended to carry at their head the Imperial Eagle. This was the bronze sculpture of an eagle weighing 1.85 kg, mounted on top of the blue regimental flagpole. They were made from six separately cast pieces designed along Roman lines and, when assembled, measured 310 mm in height and 255 mm in width. On the base would be the regiment's number or, in the case of the Guard, Garde Impériale. The Eagle bore the same significance to French Imperial regiments as the colours did to British regiments - to lose the Eagle would bring shame to the regiment, who had pledged to defend it to the death.”

“The first French Eagle to be captured by the British was taken by the 87th Foot from the French 8e Ligne at the Battle of Barrosa on 5 March 1811. The first British soldier to touch the battle standard was a young officer, Ensign Edward Keogh, although as his hand grasped it, he was immediately shot through the heart and killed. He was followed by Sergeant Patrick Masterson who grabbed the eagle from the French ensign who carried it, reputedly with the cry "By Jaysus, boys, I have the Cuckoo!".”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Imperial_Eagle

I'll be the first to say its unhealthy to over glorify the physical courage people are forced to display when being pressed into service by warmongering bastards. Or how people—who would likely be friendly--are forced to fight each other. Nonetheless, courage it is, and should be respected as such. It takes a lot less courage to have a go at people behind a computer screen—especially having a go at people who only want to stop the war or help people in general.

This may be part of why armchair generals, IRL and of blog warriors, bring about their own destruction: the very activity of “war” selects for people who get very good at it and therefore are the most dangerous to an operation. In fact real life wars are far safer for Generals—the best of heroes still have a limited life expectancy. In this virtual “war” its a wee bit different....

What would bring shame to the “regiment”? This “regiment”--a “shadow regiment”, if you will, made it their business to not just flood the 911 Truth Movement with garbage, set up the widows and witnesses to be mocked, but made a fair effort to target activists with lies, slander and death threats. They were an arm of the right-wing spin machine, members of right-wing think tanks, sympathizers of Holocaust deniers and racists, and did their best to infect the 911Truth movement with their bollox.

What would shame them? Assuming they can be shamed? Not exposing their trolls—that's what they are there for: disinformation decoys. Not their hypocrisy and criminals actions—that'll be taken care of in the fullness of time through the right channels. Not the legion of phony yahoo and google groups set up to gather information about people to be harassed—just being a participant of such a group is shame enough—well, it will be when its directly connected to the aforementioned harassment. But those responsible for setting up these groups—that's an Eagle worth capturing. Because “they” never thought it could be caught...

"When duty calls me I must go
To stand and face another foe.
But part of me will always stray
Over the hills and far away..."

“Slicingthroats”

The individual responsible for setting up the worst of these groups, including 911Insidejobbers, was “Slicingthroats”[information comes from a confidential source].

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/94/insideslice1.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1258/insideslice2.jpg

Anyone wanting to initiate legal action(s) to find others responsible for the others could no doubt question “ST”, who seems to want to forget this entire episode and move on to, shall we say, other things.

Which is fine—provided he never engages in this rubbish again. I can't speak for other people that were targeted and if I'm asked by someone with a legal case I will tell them who “Slicingthroats” is. Proof I have this knowledge-- “ST” current hosting and/or name servers are at dizinc.com. I'm being deliberately vague. This isn't enough information for anyone to figure out his real identity[not nyms] without already knowing it. But the minute “ST” is seen working with the old crew again, doing the same email spam and harassment 911insidejobbers got up to—“Slicingthroats” contact information goes out to everyone on my private list.

This man owes many people apologies, not the least of which to someone “ST” admits he “accidentally” exposed:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/60/slicemistake.jpg

Bollox. He knew what he was doing along with everyone else who “accidentally” let whatever “slip”. The wee club he hung out with became the WQ2RX machine—there was nothing “accidental” about it.

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-3-kennebunkport-hoax.html

But since these people never apologize, I suppose we'll settle for “don't do it again”.

Really, do not do it again, sir.

The future of the 9/11 truth movement

“If I should fall to rise no more
As many comrades did before
Ask the pipes and drums to play
Over the hills and far away...”

The source of disruption and misinformation can be traced to operators in 9/11 truth pushing agendas enabling Larouche cultist, Nazi sympathizers, racists and ultra right-wing “libertarians”:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-2-cults-cultures.html
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-4-nazis-among-usthe.html
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/06/if-this-is-itpart-5-killtown-lew.html

Whether these operators were hired by the US government or are part of some outsourced “cointelpro” or are following their own quasi-criminal agenda is neither here nor there. All these operators can be neutralized by the simple expedient of a zero tolerance policy for racist Nazi trash and anything that can be mistaken for racist Nazi trash.

Among this group are people mining and spreading personal information with criminals and the aforementioned racist Nazi trash. Again, why they're doing it is beside the point—in addition to appropriate legal action, simply cut them off. Zero-tolerance for attacks on activists, 9/11 witnesses and survivors.

Many may not know it, but there is currently a golden window to remake the 9/11 truth movement. Or maybe take it back to its roots as a movement started by the Jersey Girls to demand answers for the royal cock-up of multiple US government agencies that Bush and Cheney were trying to avoid investigating. Not to take away from sincere independent research into how 9/11 happened, but, in so far as a political movement for justice, that was the beginning of the 9/11 truth movement. IMHO the Truth Movement needs re-adopt those basics as its core, with research having its place as an ancillary role.

Now is a perfect time to do it. The disruptors and their networks suffered a serious of serious losses over the last two years. Currently they are in disarray and the handful operating are hanging by threads. It is an opportune time to consolidate the best of 9/11 truth and remake the movement into an effective force for political change. Whether this opportunity will be seized or not remains to be seen.

Mind “they” are also aware of their precarious position and the power vacuum—thus the hysterical push of “Israel did 9/11” recently. However transparent the tactic, it still works to drive people away as long as clueless website administrators allow that “discussion” in the name of “free speech”. The challenges facing 9/11 truth activists are not only this distraction(which is enabled by Israel's latest criminal actions), but the lack of real infrastructure.

An effective political movement includes media exposure, organization and a persistent physical presence(and yes , it is political if you're trying to make changes in politics or public policy). Currently only one of those dynamics is operating consistently: a persistent physical presence by way of Truthaction and the 11th of the Month campaign. I've said in private Truthaction is the last best hope for 9/11 truth. The problem is –however true I might believe that to be--a physical presence by itself simply will not work.

Media exposure is needed to get the message out—credible media, not Larouche/crypto Nazi goons on Fox news. This isn't just to “get the message out”--its also to give an accurate portrayal of 911 truth, not the parody Right-wing nutters like Screw Losers promote. I must grudgingly admit Kevin Barrett and “Killtown” were partially correct about disinformation not keeping 9/11 truth from being covered by the MSM:

[listen to this interview if you have the fortitude
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3008677323664295988 ]

The crazed and Nazi sympathetic theories are meant to be covered by MSN-- to drive away potential new participation from solid intelligent members of the public who would be interested in why the Jersey Girl's and other survivors questions have not been answered.

And organization is a shambles. It's very simple –as a progressive movement there must be zero tolerance for Nazi friendly rubbish and unethical behaviour.

Zero. Tolerance.

Clean it out, and start over if you must. If no organization for political change will take the plunge on behalf of 9/11 truth, make your own. Do not ever give someone with a history of disruption any position of responsibility whatsoever. Practice politely turning people down:

“I'm sorry sir/madame, but we're uncomfortable with your history doing [ ] with this group [ ] and feel we'd undermine our credibility and expose ourselves to liability”.

This is how serious political groups behave. It's not just about good PR, its the personal and financial safety of your members. Don't let yourself be manipulated by the fake values of a manufactured culture. Be inspired, but don't let inspiration become another trap.

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html

Its grim for the 9/11 truth movement, but there's a chance...if it can be seized in time.

Nothing lasts forever

"Then fall in lads behind the drum,
With colours blazing like the sun.
Along the road to come-what may.
Over the hills and far away..."

And with that I leave you. I'm retiring. I'm not needed any more. Now the knowledge is out there for sincere 9/11 activists to know what the dangers are and what needs to be done.

I'll continue to network people privately to resources they need on a case by case basis, but my public activity is finished for the foreseeable future. Only under the most extraordinary circumstances –perhaps an actual criminal investigation--would I be compelled to return. These accounts will remain open--help will be given to those who need it:

http://www.youtube.com/jennifersparks
http://twitter.com/JennySparksX
and messages through:
truthaction.org
911blogger.com
911taboo forums

Last transmission of Jenny Sparks ends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-tpnwfye4w

To the lurking problem children—you know what you need to do.

Also at:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=38250

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?showtopic=1395

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3408441/

Previously:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-2-cults-cultures.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-3-kennebunkport-hoax.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-4-nazis-among-usthe.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/06/if-this-is-itpart-5-killtown-lew.html

If this is it....Part 5- “Killtown”, Lew Rockwell and the Ludwig von Mises Institute

2010-06-01T12:08:00.000-07:00

If this is it...

“...If this is it , Please let me know...”

~mixed feelings

Part 5- “Killtown”, Lew Rockwell and the Ludwig von Mises Institute

Killtown as anyone can see from his yahoo profile came on the scene in March of 2002, literally months after 9/11.

http:// profiles.yahoo.com/killtown

Before that he was a active in the Libertarian Party, and even before that he admits to being active in the Greens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9tk0H-EDZ4

So it isn't completely fair to assume his 9/11truth involvement was phony; clearly he was interested in politics before. But how genuine was his previous interest? Its speculation, but switching from Green to Libertarian is a bit odd. It sounds more like he was a Green because of the hot chicks and drugs, and the Libertarian switch was discovering a conservative culture that he could be comfortable with and still get hot chicks and drugs. Again this is speculation, but it would explain why “KT” finds right-wing nutters comfortable company—to him that is normal. I wouldn't be surprised to discover his family as hard core Republicans with strong “Christian Values”. That's perfect recipe for raging hypocrisy later in life.

Another odd bit was his choice of screen name. “Killtown”? Seriously? Are is he trying to put people off? There was an 80's rap group. Maybe “KT” was a fan. There was also an African American group who I'd suspect is truly irritated with “KT” hijacking their search results. They probably changed their name.... Right, “Killtown” makes sense as a band name challenging the culture—not so much if one's really trying to get people to look into 911truth. As a name for an supposed antiwar activist, it's frankly offensive—especially used by a white boy. He's not alone in this in your face counter productive naming among supposed truthers. Somewhere out there is a user called “europeangenocide” and another called “catrapesdog”. More relevant are email addys called “slicingthroats” and “removingheads”, also from roughly the same period. Its like someone wanted a bunch of off-putting names to go with the drivel they'd soon publish.

One of “Killtown”s first haunts was APFN. APFN is short for American Patriots Friends Network. “Killtowns” posts go back to at least 2003:

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/10-11-03/discussion.cgi.89.html

killtown

9-11 + Rice Calls Bush

Thu Oct 9 04:26:24 2003

64.140.158.40

What's curious about the IP address “KT” used is other people posting at APFN used it as well.

Jason Colletts

SECRET PROBE OF STOCK DEALINGS BEFORE 9/11

Sun May 8, 2005 21:39

64.140.158.40

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/05-10-05/discussion.cgi.52.html

That seems to imply a network Killtown --and others—had access to, for the express purpose of posting to APFN. It is NOT a proxy service. It is a static corporate ip address owned by Extreme Zone in Mesa, AZ:

Hostname:ip-140-158-40.phx.extremezone.com

ISP:Extreme Internet

That sounds like a service APFN was paying for its users to post through. Nothing wrong with that in theory, but is shows someone representing APFN spent money so people could the Extreme Zone ip like a proxy service. Whomever paid for that service could be held culpable in the later slander and attacks the list was used for.

Other people used this network, notably Lisa Guliani:

Lisa Guliani

# 9-11 on Trial

Fri Feb 11, 2005 02:56

64.140.158.43

Right-wing operative Marsha McCleland defending Terry Schiavo's “life”

www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_2.htm

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-23-05/discussion.cgi.2.html

Marsha

Life or death matter>>>I saw Terri Schiavo on the news and s

Wed Feb 23, 2005 23:00

152.163.101.7

I saw Terri Schiavo on the news and she "WAS" very much alert>>>>>>>>

How could they think of killing her...Because in her case...removing the tube would kill her...Her husband should be tarred and feathered and then beat to a pulp...Please take a moment to sign and send to others...What if she were one of your own

Shame on "US"...barbarians and savages, we are, if we don't help this woman and her loving and suffering parents...Please take a moment and sign it...

Marsha

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/02-11-05/discussion.cgi.43.html

And—surprise, surprise, Webfairy:

The Webfairy

Re: Was Not an Attack it was Murder

Fri Mar 26 15:01:37 2004

63.228.144.66

Go look at

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html

The killtown site is not my work. I just host it for someone anonymous even to

me.

Leaving aside the extreme unlikelihood of anyone hosting material on their personal website they'll be held responsible for and not knowing whose material it is, its notable how many people who would later be trouble can be found on the APFN network.

At the very least American Patriots Friends Network has an agenda of pushing right-wing extremism. They don't like discussion and they don't play nice if they're crossed—which can be just asking them a simple question;

http://justanotherblowback.blogspot.com/2006/10/american-patriot-friends-network-apfn.html

At the most the are crytpo fascists and racists of the worst kind-- and here's a message from David Duke to prove it:

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-24-05/discussion.cgi.21.html

D.D.

Michael Chertoff, Homeland Nominee Aided a 911 Terrorist

Sun Jan 23, 2005 14:07

64.140.158.55

January 23, 2005

Michael Chertoff, Homeland Nominee Aided a 911 Terrorist

As incredible as this news may seem, it has now been revealed that the nominee of President Bush for the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, has ties with a man suspected of financing the 911 attacks, Dr. Magdy Elamir. There is also convincing evidence that Chertoff as head of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department shielded this financier of 911 from prosecution in a terrorist case.

The Record newspaper of Bergen County, New Jersey on June 20, 2000 shows that Chertoff defended Magdy Elamir who was sued by the State of New Jersey for $16.7 million dollars in losses. Over $5.7 million went Òto unknown parties by means of wire transfers to bank accounts where the beneficial owner of the account is unknown."

Who is Elamir Magdy, Chertoff's important client? On the NBC program, Dateline, on August 2, 2002, Rep. Ben Gilman, R-NY, of the House International Relations Committee was quoted as saying in 1998 that Magdy Elamir had "financial ties with Osama bin Laden for years."

In fact, Elamir even had strong connections with the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993.

[SNIP]

In 2002, I was speaking all over America and world exposing the Israeli connections to 911 and the over 140 members of the Israeli spy ring that was then held in FBI custody. Zionists in the U.S. State Department attempted to prevent my appearance on a primetime program broadcast over the worldwide Al-Jazeera network. (Newsweek: Periscope). They failed, and the program aired to millions around the world and received a tremendous response. I was offered hundreds of invitations to speak on the matter before influential organizations, media and groups all over the world. Within 60 days of my appearance on Al Jazeera, Mr. Chertoff as head the criminal division of the U.S. Justice Department authorized prosecution against me on tax and financial matters. This is the same Michael Chertoff who freed the same Israeli spy ring that I helped to expose!

And now it turns out that Chertoff himself has aided one of the financiers of bin Laden and the 911 attack! It is also clear that he has obstructed justice in preventing this terroristÕs prosecution.

And now, our Jewish-Neocon-dominated government seeks to make a man who aided one of the 911 terrorists as head of Homeland Security.

Under control of the Jewish supremacists our nation's government has gone insane.

Sincerely, David Duke

I want to acknowledge that some of my wording and excerpts came from a superb article "Security Risk in The University Star newspaper of Texas State University. They are credited with the flow chart of the time line showing Chertoff's involvement with the terror figure and his subsequent obstruction of justice.

Note: I believe that this story is one of the most shocking and important ever published on Davidduke.com/ Imagine, the nominee for head of Homeland Security actually aided one of the men behind he 911 attacks! Its almost too shocking to be true!

It is vital that you post this article on every forum you can find. Go to websites that deal with some of these issues and send the article to pundits, newscasters, commentators, reporters. You can go on the internet and send a short paragraph on the article to hundreds of opinion leaders and molders in a few short hours! It is incumbent upon you to do this. Many commentators and columnists give their email addresses; use them to send out this vital piece. Other websites in America, Canada, Europe and the Mideast must also get this information. If you act quickly the world will know the sordid facts about Michael Chertoff. I have posted this article. Now it is up to you to saturate the internet with it until it has a life of its own. Go for it! D.D.

Wow. David Duke. THE David Duke. And Killtown and the rest were on this email list...how could they have missed DAVID sodding “KKK” DUKE?

APFN—and its associated google/yahoo groups/email lists is also a haunt of Webster Tarpley [=Larouche] and a place where virtually all of Tarpley's media—books, radio shows are promoted.

http://www.mail-archive.com/apfn@googlegroups.com/msg01605.html

apfn.net/Messageboard/01-21-06/discussion.cgi.67.html

www.apfn.net/messageboard/07-04-05/discussion.cgi.28.html

So we can safely say APFN is another Lyndom Larouche outpost.

What's a nice ex-Green Libertarian boy hanging out with friends of Larouche cultists and David Duke? That by itself indicates his “Green” sympathies were probably phony. David sodding Duke—no way did would a real Green remain on an email list with David Duke.

Whatever one says about his online time spent, KT wasn't lazy—his copy/pasta masterpiece, Killtown's: 250+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns', was a feat in tedious mirroring of government and MSM sources. And another trap for 9/11truth. If could be a great resource—if it hadn't been complied by an odious troll who let Internet stalkers and pedophiles destroy his website and reputation in one stroke. As it is linking to his site is automatically cause for discrediting, and anyone defending him and his supposed “research” has either been in a cave for the last 5 years or is one of his trolls. KT's Smoking Guns served two purposes, first it gave his “research creds” that opened doors from him many places. He became a mod at Loose Change forums—with all the access to personal information that implies--- long before he had his own forum. He was invited on radio shows and, more or less, conducted himself civilly, if one ignores his obsession with Val McClatchey. But without APFN and his mates Lisa, Victor and Michael, there never would have been a problem with Val.

IMO I think KT was seduced into taking on the McClatchey project. It was Rumpl4skin who did the preliminary “research” and Lisa and Victor who first called Ms. McClatchey. Then they dumped it in KT's lap. Or he volunteered. This doesn't excuse his actions, it just seems to be how the ball started rolling. I think I know why they chose him—at this time 2005-2006—he was a valuable right-wing troll asset: he'd managed up to then to maintain his online anonymity. [u] That is precisely the person you need if you're going to make it part of your operation to publish repeated lies and slanders about someone. [/u] What I don't get is why he took the job on with such gusto. Its as if he started to believe his own press-- he was invincible, special, and untouchable. KT has made zero effort to modify, qualify or mitigate the rubbish he's directed at people, including Val—something most sane people do, especially if they know they're crossing the line. They give themselves room to wiggle if they're ever caught.

“KT” has given himself none of this. This is seen most glaringly in his latest lie—apropos of nothing--where three or four people are supposed to have engaged in criminal blackmail. Archived, screened and there is NO ROOM to wiggle. No excuse will save him. What that suggests is a person lost in grandiose delusions and completely out of touch with reality. Maybe that's why he took the McClatchey job on—KT is simply incapable of believing anything he does can go wrong. That makes people bold, but it also makes them stupid. They're unable to accurately judge risk, so they're unable to plan ahead effectively. In a way I feel a tiny bit sorry for him—obviously he was being taken advantage of and no one warned him of the risks.

His delusions of infallibility alienated so many people online someone made an Urbandictionary entry of his trolling style, “Killtowning”

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=killtowning

He was banned so many places, he was forced to start his own forum, with people beholden to him or sharing the same agenda. One of those was big in libertarian circles, a man called Rockwell, more well known as Lew Rockwell, who published the racist Ron Paul letters.

Lew Rockwell in the 9/11 Truth Movement

[Rockwell at 911movement]

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/884/rockwell1.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6189/rockwell4.jpg

http://reason.com/archives/2008/01/16/who-wrote-ron-pauls-newsletter

“Yet in interviews with reason, a half-dozen longtime libertarian activists—including some still close to Paul—all named the same man as Paul's chief ghostwriter: Ludwig von Mises Institute founder Llewellyn Rockwell, Jr.

Financial records from 1985 and 2001 show that Rockwell, Paul's congressional chief of staff from 1978 to 1982, was a vice president of Ron Paul & Associates, the corporation that published the Ron Paul Political Report and the Ron Paul Survival Report. The company was dissolved in 2001. During the period when the most incendiary items appeared—roughly 1989 to 1994—Rockwell and the prominent libertarian theorist Murray Rothbard championed an open strategy of exploiting racial and class resentment to build a coalition with populist "paleoconservatives," producing a flurry of articles and manifestos whose racially charged talking points and vocabulary mirrored the controversial Paul newsletters recently unearthed by The New Republic.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/26/ron-paul-95-percent-of-black-men-are-criminal/

Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action…. Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

“But, whoever actually wrote them, the newsletters I saw all had one thing in common: They were published under a banner containing Paul’s name, and the articles (except for one special edition of a newsletter that contained the byline of another writer) seem designed to create the impression that they were written by him--and reflected his views. What they reveal are decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays. In short, they suggest that Ron Paul is not the plain-speaking antiwar activist his supporters believe they are backing--but rather a member in good standing of some of the oldest and ugliest traditions in American politics.”

“To understand Paul’s philosophy, the best place to start is probably the Ludwig von Mises Institute, a libertarian think tank based in Auburn, Alabama. The institute is named for a libertarian Austrian economist, but it was founded by a man named Lew Rockwell, who also served as Paul’s congressional chief of staff from 1978 to 1982.”

“The politics of the organization are complicated--its philosophy derives largely from the work of the late Murray Rothbard, a Bronx-born son of Jewish immigrants from Poland and a self-described “anarcho-capitalist” who viewed the state as nothing more than “a criminal gang”--but one aspect of the institute’s worldview stands out as particularly disturbing: its attachment to the Confederacy.”

That explains David Duke. Not so much the crypto-Nazis. That must be filed under “complicated”.

To recap, aimless supposed Green boy enjoying hippy chicks is drawn into the Libertarian party, and becomes a 911 online entity working with supporters of Lyndon Larouche, David Duke and various Holocaust deniers and confederacy sympathizers. Eventually KT would be de facto manager of a forum compiling information about activists—and one of his administrators is THE Lew Rockwell.

Sorry, that man is too big for a hole in the wall operation. What that says to me is 911movement.org was a bastard stepchild operation of a right-wing think tank, and a good candidate is the Ludwig von Mises Institute or someone connected to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute

It is extremely unlikely a man like Lew Rockwell would deign to be an administrator at Killtown's backwater 911 forum unless he had a vested interest in it. Which means Killtown—and all his little friends—were part of a Right-wing think-tank agenda, whether they knew it or not.

There was a suspicion of Larouche connections given so many associates of “Killtown” pimp Webster Tarpley's books. There's also rumour “Killtowns” group was the beneficiary of “anonymous” donations and the Larocuhe PAC is a reasonable source of such funds. But its seems more likely, given the intimate association Rockwell had with 9/11 movement.org, that in this case, any financial funding and “marching orders” came from or were heavily influenced by, Lew Rockwell's think-tank the Ludwig von Mises Institute. It is noteworthy Lew Rockwell, again using the screen name Rockwell, was involved with Rick Seigel's 911researchers.com, (though not as an administrator to the best of my knowledge). That would indicate the Ludwig von Mises Institute had an agenda they wished to push in the 9/11 truth movement, and they saw “Killtown” and his forum as one of the platforms to push that agenda.

So how does that happen? Killtown goes to Rockwell and says: “Please kind sir, come to my forum and be an admin.” Or Rockwell goes to Killtown- “Son, I see you're doing good work here, mind if I become part of your club?” Neither of those work. This is Lew sodding Rockwell. He's Ron Paul's ghostwriter and has money coming out his ears. He's not coming hat in hand to some wee Internet troll, nor would be impressed by pleadings from the same. The only scenario that makes sense is Rockwell had a guiding hand in setting up “Killtowns” forum at some level because Rockwell a saw the endeavor as promoting his interests, which includes promoting Ron Paul, racism and glorifying the Confederacy, btw. Now the mystery of why some racist material was tolerated at “Killtown's” forum is solved.

Whatever Rockwell's involvement and support, it does not involve rescuing Killtown from obscurity. He served his purpose and now “KT” is too hot to handle. Imagine the headlines: “Libertarian Think-tank behind harassment of Shanksville 9/11 witness and Canadian actor”. Yeh, that's a hot potato Mr. Rockwell won't be picking up too soon.

And no overview of Killtown's career can be complete without a brief mention of his Nazi Bimbo.

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37884

Either she has Nazi sympathies or is indifferent to them. She has posted under Xena Warrior Princess and the911stalker, but I like “Nazi Bimbo”. Honestly, how does THIS happen if she's not a Nazi Bimbo?

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/840/nogwguesswho2.jpg

Brief mention ends.

One lesson in all this is you can count on right-wing operatives to shoot themselves in the foot—eventually. Its all rather sad and a bit of a waste. Imagine if “Killtown” had been committed to actually helping people. But he was never committed about anything. At most the evidence shows he followed one ridged path doggedly, even though it was self destructive. Why did he do it? It wasn't for 9/11 truth and justice. It wasn't to research 9/11. It wasn't because he cared about anyone or anything or any-cause.

I think he did it because it was the closest thing to having friends—the closest thing to getting the validation his empty life lacked. That he apparently has no moral compass or ability to admit mistakes and change his ways, meant he was doomed from the start to be his own worst enemy. In a very literal sense “Killtown” is broken—being so impoverished in his internal life, his only sense of validation came from provoking others online. Honestly, if it wasn't 9/11, it would have been something else. What is shocking and a bit tragic is that his pursuit of validation destroyed his credibility so utterly, the very thing he craved is now impossible for him to get as “Killtown”.

There is one way out for him: apologize, repudiate and clean up everything he's done. But he will never do this, thus dooming himself to be cut off from meaningful human interaction in 911 truth—or else where-- forever.

Every troll following in Killtown's shoes—mark this and mark it well: an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Anyone encouraging you to do their dirty work and promising you can escape consequences—or they will protect you no matter what you do—it is a lie. If you are caught, you will be alone. It is only a matter of time. Look at how many powerful allies Killtown had—that are gone. It is not worth it and whomever you are none of you were as valuable as “Killtown” was. There will never be another “Killtown”. He was created during a unique set of on-line circumstances and personal quirks that will not be reproduced. “Killtown's” rise and fall is a lesson in the dangers of right-wing hubris.

Now I must regretfully caution all 9/11 truth activists of African descent, or who identify as African descent or who LOOK LIKE they could be of African descent: there are bono fide racists(er, supporters of “the Confederacy”) operating in 9/11 truth and we know how dangerous racists can be. Under no circumstances let anyone manipulate you into surrendering your anonymity unless it is your informed decision.

Note: I have been informed who “Killtown” is and exactly how to find him—observe I haven't revealed this information once. That's because when its time to deal with him, it won't be in public online.
ADDITIONAL [August 15, 2011]: Nothing ever goes as planned. Turns out when "Killtown" is directly but civilly confronted via his real life email, even with an option to work things out, he runs away like a baby. Oh well. It'll get sorted eventually.

Also at:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6557

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-06-01/if-itpart-5-%E2%80%9Ckt%E2%80%9D-lew-rockwell-and-ludwig-von-mises-institute

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3401325/1/

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=d994171cc066102ad62dd549d9a2706d&showtopic=1394

Next:

If this is it...Part 6- Jenny's Eagle

Previously:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-2-cults-cultures.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-3-kennebunkport-hoax.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-4-nazis-among-usthe.html

If this is it...part 4 – Nazis among us—the grain of truth in the lie

2010-05-30T23:13:00.000-07:00

If this is it...

“...Girl don't lie, and tell me that you need me
Girl don't cry, and tell me nothing's wrong
I'll be alright one way or another...”
~mixed feelings

Part 4 – Nazis among us—the grain of truth

Its a "debunker" cliche the 9/11 truth movement is full of Holocaust deniers and Nazis. It's a lie, but a lie with a basis of truth: Nazis sure do seem to want "join up" and spread the word "the Jews did it!" I say Nazis, but this includes people who aren't actually Nazis but, either don't mind working with them, OR who share the same agenda. I should say “agendas” because where Nazis sympathies lie there appear to be several:

1: the “oppression” of the “white” race by blacks, Jews, Mexicans, Irish Catholics—whom everyone else consider white/of European decent, but these folks never let facts get in their way. For that matter most European Jews are “white”, that is of Polish, German, Russian decent—yep, those pesky facts ....

2: WASP Zionists who are from the Christian Right and have a delusional idea they can bring about the Rapture by mucking about in the Middle East.

3: Various alphabet soup intelligence agencies—the most well know being the FBI—running ops with an agenda of keeping the political force of American labour tied up in phony racist bollox.

4: The same alphabet soup intel ops directed at smearing activists groups as Nazis to undermine their credibility and effectiveness.

Enter the Holocaust “Revisionists”.

These persons seem to the be first line of “Nazi” infiltration into otherwise progressive activist groups. Often initially members of said group will have never heard of the “revisionists” other work, as they have no contact with Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. So it's a bit like a mugging—a la Eric Williams and the Arizona conference.

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-02-01/eric-d-williams-911-accountability-conference-director-and-holocaust-revisionist?page=2

Of course other right wing nutters are completely familiar with the rubbish, their culture heavily overlapping with the extreme right Nazis and crypt-Nazis gravitate to, so it's no surprise when say “Screw Lucy” leaps on issues like these(if they aren't actually setups from go):

screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/holocaust-denier-hosting-9-11.html

As someone says:

“We just got duped. Pure and simple. And I'm not sure we could have avoided this one. The guy made himself look kosher up to this point.”

Which makes Pat's statement more than disingenuous:
“Note: The point here is not that some idiot Holocaust Denier is holding a conference. The point is that so many other people who imagine themselves to standing up for the "Truth" would care to be associated with such a character.”

If the man kept mum about his Revisionist interests
AND the group he insinuated himself in were not sympathetic to Nazis
OR part of a right-wing culture who might have heard about his Nazi schtick,
THEN its not about people wanting to be associated with this character.
Its about what motivated this man to involve himself in the first place. He couldn't have expected to to hide his interests for long, nor have been surprised at the backlash once he was exposed. It is rare for a genuine Nazi sympathizer TO GO OUT OF THIER WAY, on their own, into a den of “enemies” of the White Race—which at last count was most of the sane people on the planet. The one thing that can be said about “White Power” culture is they prefer to keep to their own—a bit like survivalists. Eric Williams was almost certainly put up to this “job”.

It's pretty much a given when one sees a Holocaust “revisionist” involved, promoted, or excused, you have a flag that a deliberate attempt to inject Nazis material is in progress. Furthermore, given the ultra insular nature of the White Power/Neo-Nazis sub-cultures, the agenda has almost certainly NOTHING to do with “saving the white race”, and is probably all about smearing your activist group as Nazi sympathizers.

Which narrows the actors behind the 911truthers are Nazis smear campaign all the way down to the alphabet soups and their affiliates who have a history playing with Nazis:

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/features/story.asp?id=10497
http://www.amazon.com/Undercover-Nazi-David-Gletty/dp/1934449350/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275183540&sr=1-1

[Aside-I seriously have a hard time believing anyone needs to infiltrate a Nazi group to help ORGANIZE NEO NAZI EVENTS? WTF? Gathering info to prevent crimes is one thing—being an organizer is all sorts of dodgey...]

When the Holocaust “revisionist” first pops up, if he's clever(and usually its a he), he won't start off with extreme stuff. He wants to feel the ground, see what his audience will put up with. He'll waffle about the accuracy of figures and “how can we know if people didn't make mistakes”. This is a legitimate historical concern—[u]that historians have procedures for dealing with[/u]. But he won't go there—he's trying to sound you out. He'll appeal to liberal fair-minded but naïve sorts, who take his questions at face value. If you don't volunteer your doubts about the Holocaust, he'll take a wait and see attitude. If you respond acknowledging his concerns and agreeing with certain points while making it clear being associated with Holocaust denial is not a smart thing, you'll be on the line—are you simply very clever at hiding it? Or are you trouble? If you respond with a clearly better understanding of history and sources than the revisionist himself, you will be marked as trouble.

And, very important—

if after sounding you out- -a third supposedly progressive party claims this individual has extreme right-wing sympathies—when he has just repudiated that claim
AND you have observed no evidence
NOR are you presented with evidence of this persons assertions—I cannot stress this strong enough--RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

Allthose people are part of a crypto-Nazi network.

--The individual sounding you out.
--the third party(ies) because
a) the only way they would know more is if they had more knowledge than you do
b) that they are not volunteering and
c)they remain in the group with the Nazi sympathizer in question.

This sounds alarming but neo-Nazi/white power culture—the poor sods who actually believe this bollox because they're at rock bottom—these people are dangerous. They can be used by the sophisticated leadership—the Tom Metzgers and the like—as a useful pool of ready made patsies. And since –like unemployed African Americas/Afro-Caribbeans( their brothers and sisters in economic oppression)--they're almost always on the wrong side of the law, they can be blackmailed into doing some nasty favors for the feds.

So when the Holocaust revisionist pops up in a group or some git says “Israel did 911”, its not just about free speech. It about whether you want to attract Nazi sympathizers and become part of a network that could quite literally be a threat to your life:

In Oregon: attempted murder of antifascist member

http://antiracist.org/node/1578

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=375:shooting-in-downtown-portland-oregon-likey-neo-nazi-ambush-against-antifa&catid=29:antifa-news

“Friday, 02 April 2010 02:11 OPP HQ

If the reports coming out of Portland are accurate, things are about to get real ugly for a lot of Nazis. Last weekend Luke Querner, an Anti-Fascist activist, was shot by someone reportedly from the neo-Nazi circles out there, and Antifa are looking for him. Now Portland is the last city you would want something like this to happen, because there has been a rather lopsided war going on in that town for over two decades between Antifa and Nazis, with Antifa pretty much getting the best of them.”

Followed by member of “Killtown's” 9/11 group trying to gatecrash an event by the same antifascist group.

http://kboo.fm/node/21071

http://kboo.fm/audio/download/21071/0426%20Antifa%20AIPAC.mp3
[if that link doesn't work, go to the kboo node---they have the mp3 there]

Some examples of “revisionism” and anti-Semite material a member of Killtown's 9/11 group was caught with:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3484/hololie.jpg
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7663/holohoax.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6537/jewsorgans.jpg

More information about people injecting this rubbish can be found at this thread:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37884

In that same thread is this persons account of how far the 911truth = Nazis meme has traveled:

“I had just finished a day handing out brochures on 9/11 and began walking home and I saw a group of young people in their 20s...I stopped and enthusiastically shared my literature about 9/11... half way into my sentence one man yelled at me in front of his friends... DON'T GIVE US THIS JEW HATING BULL SHIT, he then threw my brochure to the ground and walked away saying I was anti Semitic... I'll yelled at the guy saying that I was not anti Semitic... but they kept walking...(laughing too) There I was alone and wondering why did this happen.. For the next few years I learned why... Every time corporate media did a story on 9/11 truthers they would work holocaust denial in the same sentence of their stories somehow... Also there are a few Holocaust deniers in the 9/11 truth movement... we had two members in our own group, they left because the rest of us wouldn't go there...”

If you're still in the 911 activists game, and you care about the people you're working with,
do not give Holocaust “Revisionists” or people spouting pro-Nazis rubbish like “The Jews did it”, membership, a platform, or excuses. In the rare event they aren't actually agents of a Nazis agenda, too sodding bad. They should know better. The risks of muddying 9/11truth with racist rubbish and the risk to the safety of group members is not worth it. This includes disingenuous discussions about Zionism that focus on supposed Israel controlled US government, based mainly on the “evidence” of Jewish sounding surnames. The real Zionists in Washington aren't Jews at all but All American Home-grown WASPs with a Christian-Right agenda. And who apparently have no ethical qualms about working with or using neo-Nazis or crypto-Nazis. They also don't give a sh*te about the Palestinian struggle, fyi.

Going back to the various parties pushing a Nazis agenda in 9/11truth and elsewhere:

1: White Power Warriors
2: WASP Zionists
3: FBI, etc disruption of Anti racist activism
4: FBI, etc use of above to poison (X) with Nazi sympathies

Number 1 are invariably the tools of 2-4, and used when violence is needed that can't be traced to 2-4.

WASP Zionists are where you'll find organizations like FOX news—basically anyone excusing Israeli actions while at the same time pushing an Extreme right-wing agenda. These people are impervious to logic as their mission is informed by Christian belief of the narrow sort focusing on the Rapture. Anything that brings that about sooner is fair game. These people are nuts.

FBI, etc, disruption and Nazi smears comes from a variety of blog warriors, some in house, some out-sourced, some of whom may be paid:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2007/12/black-pr-and-proof-of-paid-internet.html

Others are funded and supported through private companies. Its all a Black PR campaign, exploiting webmasters high-minded and somewhat naïve ideals of free speech. Since most early 911truth operations were volunteer efforts, the opportunity rises for some of the crypto-fascist/Nazi blog warriors to volunteer for moderation duty. At that point you are truly screwed—the blogger will waste no time funneling personal information about the webmaster and sites users to his network, and sometimes the effects will spill over into Real Life. Such information will pop up is surprising places and most of the time the targets will have no idea how it got there. Any legal actions will flounder. Very rarely is the chain of custody recovered.

These crypto-or not so crypto Nazis –will also code words and certain issues to attract other racist sympathizers such as alleged “Libertarian” concerns about “liberty”, the constitution, and immigration. From there a perfect swarm of right-wing nuttery will arrive. See dog-whistle politics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/20060925/just_a_comma_dog_whistle_politics
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Dog_whistle_politics

How do these blog warriors do it? How do they get away with it for so long? Part of the answer is tricking the 9/11truth movement into thinking right and left politics don't matter. We've all been exposed to the idea the Democrats are just as corrupt as the Republicans—so vote uber Republican, er “Libertarian”-goes the logic(in the States, obviously). This has somehow been extended to mean left and right have no meaning separate from parties and this is false. While the value of political parties is questionable, left and right politics describe something very real separate from parties:

Broadly speaking:

anyone who wants to make the world a better place FOR EVERYBODY is some species of progressive. This is broadly left-wing politics. People involved may self identify as liberal, democrat, radical, leftwing libertarian, green, etc--even some RINOS and/or conservatives in the very strict sense of the word. This is separate from registered party affiliation.

OTOH right-wing politics is expressly about making the world a better place for a very small group of already privileged people. The ones who know the score identify as the worst of the me-first entitled conservative and/or neo con. And they've learned how to hide it under a "I'm just concerned about big government" veneer. Anyone else from the other groups who support these politics have to be tricked into doing so. Because when you corner them individually on the basics like clean air, clean water, and racism--they cave or get tongue tied.

But once this is muddled with Dem=Rep, therefore Left=Right rhetoric, this reality is obscured and the manipulation of –or alienation of--progressives can be very effective in the hands of crypro fascist blog warriors undermining what is basically a progressive movement.

Who are the cryoto-Nazis?

They include outright Holocaust “Revisionists” like Eric Williams and David Cole, as well as their apologists. They also include people slipping in revisionists as sources for their works no matter how many times they are cautioned by everyone else. They also include people endorsing these works.
A short list of 9/11 authors including this rubbish: Webster Tarpley, Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, DRG, --don't like being on the list get rid of the Nazi bollox. See above attempted murder above by the people you're attracting and STFU.

9/11 interest websites dedicated to making a safe place for such material include Rense.com, apfn.net/org, 911movement.org(dead site), americanfreepress.net, wtcdemolition.com. They may also become obsessed with calls to hunt their challengers down. Or take on projects making lists about activists under the excuse of documenting history, but really to be used by the network to share information about targets without directly communicating with the rest of the crypto-Nazi network[b][in fact anyone engaged in drawing up public “hit lists” or “enemy lists” based solely on disagreement as opposed to criminal actions, can be assumed to be engaging in an unethical data mining operation, ironically a la “the Thought Police”][/b]. Since the actual traffic to these sites from the general educated public can be described as negligible, when they want to push an agenda, they have to send their blog warriors out to stir sh*te up and spread the word.

Many of these blog warriors pushing a crypto-Nazi agendas and working with Nazi sympathetic networks, are punch clock villains—they don't really believe anything, they don't really care, as long as the get-- their "pay" or whatever they're getting out of it:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunchClockVillain

“Punch Clock Villain

Like a mercenary, but with none of the badass.
Anti Villains who have no real grudge against the heroes, but are simply doing a job they're getting paid for. After hours they're totally personable joes who go hang out like anyone else. Most Punch Clock Villains are not even particularly mean.”
And
When not played for comedy, it illustrates the concept of the "banality of evil", a phrase coined to refer to the Nazi regime, where many of the worst evils were ultimately perpetrated by bureaucrats "just doing their jobs." (Probably a source of inspiration for this trope.) See also "Just Following Orders".
If played seriously, the emotional detachment that the Punch Clock Villain displays when he or she knowingly contributes to various atrocities can be chilling. These may insist that it was Nothing Personal, but don't expect that to stop the Anti Hero, Lancer or Mama Bear/Papa Wolf whose child(ren) they hurt from telling them to Talk To The Fist.
If they'd rather Pet The Dog, they might be a Minion With An F In Evil; if they got into evil because the superhero team fired them for misbehavior, they may be a Hero With An F In Good.

But a few are—bizarrely—volunteers. I say bizarrely because it is clear they've put quite a bit of effort into building a reputation for research, setting up websites, and getting their patter straight. Only after years of laying groundwork do they feel comfortable exposing themselves as what the are: arrogant crypto-Nazis aresholes who believe they have the connections to “take out” anyone who crosses them—and get away with it. It is the mix of actual work, long term dedication and mental instability—with no apparent compensation for their efforts-- that makes these people something of a mystery. Next we'll examine the career of who may be the most notorious cryto-Nazi volunteer blog warrior in 9/11truth-- “Killtown”.

For now just remember:

When you see Holocaust “revisionism” or “the Jews did it” being pushed, it is NOT some innocent misunderstanding of history. It is 99 times out of a 100 :
1.an attempt to inject your group/issue with Nazis associations to discredit your cause
2.attract Nazis sympathizers
3.who will be used in general information gathering on members
4.and possibly as a source of labor for “wet work” or other criminal activities against members.

Do not tolerate people pushing Nazi agendas under any circumstances.

ALSO at:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6552

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-30/if-itpart-4-%E2%80%93-nazis-among-us%E2%80%94-grain-truth-lie

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=48dfd02b9c629380dd10754c0bad109b&showtopic=1393

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3396941/

Next:

If this is it...Part 5- The “Killtown” event and what we can learn from it

NOTE: This article is about “Killtown's” online “career”, possible agenda(s) and support. None of his personal information will be published; anyone expecting so will be disappointed.

Previously:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-2-cults-cultures.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-3-kennebunkport-hoax.html

If this is it...Part 3: Kennebunkport Hoax and WQ2RX: past and future attacks in 9/11 Truth

2010-05-27T16:10:00.000-07:00

If this is it..

“...Now you're pretending
That it's not ending
You'll say anything to avoid a fight...”
~mixed feelings re: 911truth

Part 3: Kennebunkport Hoax and WQ2RX: past and future attacks in 9/11 Truth

The Kennebunkport Hoax—a machination of Webster Tarpley—has been covered elsewhere:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/21/143911/917
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunkport-warning-hoax-controversy.html
http://911blogger.com/node/11441

To summarize in late August of 2007 Webster Tarpley, along with Craig Hill and Bruce Marshall, passed around a petition at an event in Kennebunkport pro-porting to be a statement denouncing the Bush administration, which was signed by many people in a crowded party like atmosphere. Prominent anti-War activists like Cindy Sheehan signed it only to discover there signatures being associated with a document none of them had seen; this document supposedly warned of an IMMINENT OMG FALSE FLAG THREAT—which of course turned out to be utter bollox. When a handful of women protested, Tarpley was to go on his radio show denouncing them as “Dahliar4” instead of simply removing their signatures like a sane person. When 911truth activists called Tarpley on his BS, a nasty harassment campaign now known as WQ2RX fired up targeting anyone who challenged the authenticity of the Kennebunkport Warning. The known participants and supporters of this harassment campaign:

Webster Tarpley, Bruce Marshall, Craig Hill, Jim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett, Captain May, Morgan Reynolds, and others.

Organizations: Actindepentent.org, CaptainMay's Ghost Troop, Rense, Portland Nuclear Inquest, Portland 911 Truth Alliance, Scholars for 911truth, 911movement.org.

Their backup was a legion of trolls using Rosalee Grable's “dog4tree” meme combined with a tagging system (invented by a lad named Spiney) called WQ2RX.

Now it should be clear to readers that anything Webster Tarpley involved in in, by definition, a Larouche PAC project. And once that's clear the techniques used in the harassment campaign make perfect sense-you have only to read accounts of people running afoul of the Larouche PAC:

http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.HarassmentSmearViolence
http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/Mop-Up.html

[NOTE-one reference is written by Chip Berlet. It maybe a good article but I would caution anyone about trusting Chip Berlet's motives. In the wake of the Kennebunkport Hoax, Tarpley accused many of us as working with Chip Berlet and the Ford Foundation, in spite of the fact I've never heard of him until then. He went so far as to get his friend Joe Azar to make this cartoon:

What is more, after reading my Dkos diary, where I openly wondered if Berlet was part of the harassment campaign, instead of explaining his sudden participation(remember I among others are supposed to be working with this guy), Chip Berlet left this tetchy prissy comment that was more worthy of a 12 year old. Not what I expect from a professional writer. And to top it off, one of the people who was to work overtime trying to protect “Killtown” and his Nazi bimbo girlfriend, tried to convince people Chip Berlet was a wonderful guy and “please don't have a go at him”. So yeh—be cautious about that one...]

But this didn't happen over night. The ground work was laid years ago as the culture of the 911 truth movement was being manipulated into accepting rubbish or outrageous behavior in the name of “truth”. This is definitely a cult attitude.

Wing-TV –via Lisa Guiliani, Victor Thorn , Micheal Piper--was one of the first smear artists in the 9/11 scene.

911underground.com/wingtv/

They were the first to have a go at Val McClatchey, laying the ground for Killtown's later infamous work.
flight93photo.blogspot.com/2006/01/wing-tv-interviews-val-mcclatchey.html

They also pushed the idea Israel did 911. They also attacked Jon Gold and Janice Matthews as Zionist agents or summat. And they did much to pioneer the habit of having regular hissy fit fights with other ant-semite, nutters to “prove” they aren't actually working together. But a list of approved people should give and idea where Wing-TV is coming from:

http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/altmedia.html

So who did report this breaking news? To the best of my ability, I‘ve tried to track this all week.

- WING TV
- Frank Whalen – Republic Broadcasting Network – RBNLive.com
- Bill Brumbaugh – ProactiveNews.com
- Sam & Trish Britton – TheInformationCorner.com
- Vyzygoth (brief telephone interview) Vyzygoth.com
- Scholars for 911 Truth (on their website) Scholars for 9-11 truth.org
- American Patriot Friends Network (APFN)
- I posted it directly onto the Liberty Post forum website.

Thank you to all of the above for doing the right thing.

Leaving aside the de-merits of considering APFN in any way “doing the right thing”, observe the year: 2006. This is the same year Screw Loose Change came into existence to echo the most outrageous rubbish in the truth movement and about Truthers. Nico's blogs were set up to be information feeds that people like Pat aka Brainster could use indirectly. Others started yahoo groups, gathering information on people interested in 911 truth for years. Rick Seigel help fund Nico's online activities and kept people like Pat informed. Concurrently, supposed “debunkers” infested JREF and manufactured their own culture of mocking the “twoof” or “woo”. Other ground work included members of the Larouche extended family—and anyone working with Tarpley is part of the Larouche extended family—to get close to key 911 activists or survivors. For instance a woman called Melle Belle apparently did quite a feat getting Ellen Mariani's trust and many pictures—which she shared with known irresponsible personalities like Killtown and Ozzytwat at 911movement.org.

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2479/mellebellealbum.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9843/mellebelle.jpg

Meanwhile, there were people at 911blogger—among them Amy Sasser, “LEH”, “Anaphora”, and “Sai Girl” making friends with regulars, gathering and sharing information about people with the network. [IMO females were used to get to the mostly male population: on political forums the most active users are assumed to be male. OTOH, when applied to same-sex and/or platonic targets, this op backfired with catastrophic results] The previous year, 2005, was mostly quiet disruptor wise. In 2006 something changed and someone got serious.

My personal suspicion is that for all the attempts to infect 911truth with a culture of crazy, in spite of all the people placed very carefully as “leaders” to herd people, in 2006 is was clear 911 truth was threatening to get out of control. Alex Jones was being an ass true, but there were also masses of people independent of the Alex Jones “thang” who were making a serious go at being an effective political force with the rest of the anti-war movement:

2004
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9571/911protesters20041.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/204/911protesters20042.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6754/911protesters20043.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5120/911protesters20044.jpg

2005

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7226/911protesters20051.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/773/911protesters20052.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8681/911protesters20053.jpg

Note the 911 activists were mixed in with other anti-war protesters and no Alex Jones bs in sight.

2006--Enter right wing volunteer bloggers Pat and James –and others--to mock the “twoof” movement and anyone in it under the cover of “journalism”.

I suggest information was consolidated by certain parties and a plan of attack was formulated to set up peace activists leaders long before the Kennebunkport Hoax. Pro Tarpley material was pushed aggressively to get as many virtual footsoldiers—at the very least directing people to his site to mine data of anyone downloading his “free” book. (Nope, nothing's free. Sorry.) The more people in the truth movement emotionally invested in his material, the more people that could be counted on to reactively defend his attacks against peace activists, threatening “others” and anyone else. Waiting in the wings of course were people like Screw Lucy, to leap to the defense of Tarpley's targets, never mind in the case of SLC, being Republican goons, under any other circumstance Pat and James would happily mock Cindy Sheehan and anyone protesting the war. Also waiting in the wings was the WQ2RX/ and animal4shrubbery videos to harass and make an example of anyone trying to muck things up.

But it didn't play out that way.

Instead it was 911 truthers who took Tarpley to task for attacking the four peace activists from word go.

"Screw Lucy" had to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover the issue, because that is NOT the kind of story—Truthers being responsible—they want to cover. But the story was too big to ignore. All of Tarpley's goons, including his publisher, were forced to play defence. As an extreme measure many radio archives were either deleted or restricted to hide evidence of the harassment and calls to hunt people down—calls made by Captain May, Jim Fetzer and Webster Tarpley himself. In one case Kevin Barrett attempted to suggest there was no such thing as a WQ2RX harassment campaign. And-very telling—at the height of Tarpley's Kennebunkport hysteria, it was the 2007 9/11 anniversary at ground zero, and a person who was there reports a sizable presence-- in the form of vending tables and leaflet hand outs—of the Larouche PAC on the streets of New York City.

http://www.truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6063

Thus it is not a stretch to assume some of the organized harassment in 911 truth has its origins and is supported by Lyndon Larouche's PAC, through various individuals and front groups.

Even though the attempt failed to divide activists like Cindy Sheehan from 911 truth, the cumulative effect of all the right-wing rubbish took its toll. Pointlessly, the harassment campaign—attacking people as Al Qaida agents tagged with WQ2RX was given the green light. This campaign has done more harm than good to the people behind it, resulting in a big plate of karma being fed to its top trolls. IMHO, this was revenge, pure and simple—any intelligent manager would have axed it and counted themselves lucky and moved on to the next project. Instead it cost them-- at last count – about two websites, three email lists, the destruction of their prize troll and any shred of credibility they still had. More on that later.
The logic behind the attacks and the Future

This was already being worked into the manufactured culture—the idea disagreement meant a threat TO ALL YOU HOLD SACRED. I confess I got suckered into it re the issue of no-planes—many people did. There is a renewed attempt to resurrect this meme. I strongly suggest people resist this urge—it only helps the manipulators find new foot soldiers for their next wave of attacks. For instance CIT is currently being slagged as no-planers as a reason they are rubbish. This is not accurate. The reason they are rubbish is because they are manipulative toerags who themselves refuse to agree to disagree, refuse to admit when they are wrong, suggest witnesses and activists are agents and started a “hit list” worthy of Killtown's old forum. In other words it is their behavior as WQ2RX stalker-lite that discredits them, not their theories. Fail to get this correct, 911 debate online will roll back to the worst of 2007.

Or 2004. This is not a new tactic. Observe what happened to one man who questioned the history of the activities of a supposed activist whose father worked for the state:

You want to play dirty Stevie?
por Gus Wednesday, Dec. 08, 2004 at 3:47 AM

You are involving family in this?

Well, you made the rules. I play by your rules and I play your game.

The father of my accuser is named [XXXXXXXX] and his wife is [XXXXX].

[XXXXX] Ave.
[XXXXX]
[XX], [XXXXX]
USA

Let us involve our families in this private war shall we, is this what you want?

You leave my family out of this and I will do the same for you.

I think it is better that you say no more. Go back to your life and do not meddle with things you are too small to comprehend.

Understand?

[personal information removed by me]

The piece of shite who wrote this also runs the site “jewmoonhoax.com” and conveniently glosses over the fact his father, being a diplomat, is a public figure and therefore having questions put to or about his political ties and activities is perfectly appropriate. OTOH this other lad's dad is NOT a public figure, has no official political activities and is suddenly the target of a stalker(Gus) solely because he's the father of someone who said “No” to a US contractor when asked to help spy on people.
[see comments at http://911blogger.com/news/2008-08-08/darpa-linked-cycorp-predicted-anthrax-attacks-6-months-they-happened ]

Anyone on the receiving end of the WQ2RX harassment will recognize the MO. This comment was posted at pr.indymedia.org and retrieved from cache connected to this article:
http://pr.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/5817_comment.php

The Gus comment was erased by the moderators for obvious reasons. So anyone defending "Gus" as being mis-understood and snitch-jacketed is full of shite. His MO in 2004 exactly matches the Dog4Tree/WQ2RX/larouche attacks. Making his support of people in the thick of that event no mystery. In such light, it is perfectly reasonable to assume he—and anyone working with him—is part of a similar stalking organization in sympathy with disrupting activism, especially considering the crypto-nazi shite he pushes.

But back to the logic in the attacks. Whatever one thinks of No-planes, IMO the concept was pressed into service to form a rationalization for the unethical online activities that followed. While no reason prevents a sincere no-planer from sharing most goals of 911 truth(after all, even if the flights were not used as the government reported, the people on those planes wherever they went are dead—and are still victims of 911), there is a different, nasty string of logic that apparently justifies attacking victims families some fake Truthers who advocate no-planes engage in: “If there were no planes, there are not only no hijackers, but no victims, and anyone claiming to be a survivor is really a government perp making loads of cash and we can have a go at them to our hearts content.”

As bad and heartless—and pointless—that is, the new meme is worse: there were no victims on 9/11 whatsoever.

IMHO this is the single biggest danger and PR disaster waiting to happen in the future of 911 truth. I hope discussing it on the record will mitigate the worst of what I think is coming. What this means is, for those connected to the Larouche PAC and working for the harassment machine, it is open season on the survivors of the 911 attacks.

That said, the source of this new rubbish: septemberclues.info and affiliated forum reality_shack and their “vicsim report”, has been low key after an initial flurry of “news”. However since “going away” has not been observed in this group's behavior, it is safest to assume this tactic has simply been delayed as opposed to abandoned. While they exist it is only a matter of time before the harassment of a victims family becomes news and “proof” all “twoofers” are dangerous nutters who hate America or summat—and probably timed with some crucial event. I strongly suggest to all 911 websites who consider their mission to be both educational and politically active to publicly repudiate the Vicsim Report in the strongest terms. At the very least it will weigh search engines in favor of sanity and show at a glance the real truth movement does not support that rubbish.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure....and such thinsg are not new to people genuinely opposing a corrupt state.

If this had been done at the first sight of neo-nazi bollox infecting 911truth, we wouldn't still be mopping up Holocaust denial bollox...

Of the attackers: Victims or Volunteers?

This is directly related to “cults and cultures” but I ran out of space. But this needs to be made known: while most participants in the sub-culture of 911 truth are volunteers, a handful may very well be pressed into service, now virtual prisoners of their circumstances—which may be indistinguishable from a destructive cult . While it is true many may have initially volunteered, this doesn't make their situation any less dire—after all, the should be free to snap out of it and get a clue, as well as being free to make royal arses out of themselves. Many of you will be less than sympathetic, but no one—no one—should be forced to push a position against their will. I would ask people to look out for signs the following people might be asking for help, or –in the case where they are surrounded by criminals—to try to contact their relatives PRIVATELY and inform them of the situation. If any people might have fallen prey to cult activities in 911 truth the following people show possible signs:

Nico Haupt: I'm going to say right off I have no personal grudge against Mr. Haupt. I see now most of what he's done he's been forced to do. I still hold people using him and taking advantage of his situation in utter contempt(Paula Gloria, Patrick Curley, Rick Seigel). Mr. Haupt appears to have come to the States under the idea he'd be an avant-guard artiste, then pressed into service as the front-man and face of disinformation by a collection of interests including Larouchites and “Libertarians”. He was also used as a conduit to funnel information about activists to criminals and stalkers. It is clear he is no longer in control of his situation—he has said he's finished with 9/11 truth. I take that to mean the people using him no longer feel as safe and cozy as once they did. (Hint: during the time Nico was put up to reporting Truthaction as a terrorist organization in late 2007—among other things--, Mr. Haupt was using Paula Gloria's ISP. That can't end well...for Ms. Gloria)

I'm not saying don't confront Nico's BS, or even himself –but be aware you are not dealing with him, you are dealing with the product of manipulation and abuse. Yes, abuse. Someone went to a lot of effort to destroy his life to make him a tool—those people need to be held responsible.

Webfairy: IMHO this is a good example of someone who volunteered and now is probably stuck. I have far more personal animosity for her, because she's chose to dance with the Devil and was cheerful about stalking people. However, she's getting up in years and may now be completely dependent on the same nasty people who supported her for so long. If these people are her sole financial support in her autumn years, it looks grim. I'm guessing shelling out for elderly care is not high on the list of priorities for her Übermensch worshipping “Libertarian” pals. I've not seen or heard about her—save for a radio interview—for months. Normally this would be a wonderful thing, but given her cohorts maybe not so much. Yes, she might deserve many things, but as human beings we don't let people be abandoned and neglected. Not saying anyone should be mates with her—just contact social services if she appears to be exploited or confined against her will.

Judy Wood: IMHO someone who did not have a choice. More needs to be known about this coma:

http://www.clemsontalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24591

“IronSnot02-04-2007, 05:29 PM
Thanks to those of you who've answered my questions. It's appreciated. I'd still like more info if somebody has it. I'd like to hear more about 'her story' which I gather includes being in a coma for 6-10 years. Also after watching that video, I have lots of questions about the validity of her scientific background and if anybody wants to address this, maybe they could email me.(stealthisnametwo@yahoo.com)”

“Booyah
02-04-2007, 08:20 PM
Haha. I had Judy Wood for Statics back in those dark engineering days. I always thought she was crazy. She told us she was in a coma for ten years, and I still don't think she's all there.”

I remember someone trying to convince me Judy was mentally ill. To be fair, anyone in a coma is going to be scrambled for a while. But I've seen a video from one of Judy's lectures a year ago, and she seems perfectly sane. Well, you know, apart from the space beams...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6714196008143117547#

A bit of speculation: you've been in a coma, you've just got out, but your benefit is getting low. If you don't have therapy you'll be a virtual basket case for the rest of your life. A benefactor comes out of the woodwork, offers to take care of everything, in exchange for your indefinite participation in a little project. Nothing illegal, strictly speaking. What would you do?

If anyone might be in danger, its Judy and I'm hoping putting the idea out there with act as a deterrent. The Judy Situation is IMHO proof Jim Fetzer is manipulative scum. Anyone who knows Judy's relatives please inform them of her questionable situation if they don't already know. And don't feel bad about continuing to slag off Judy's theories—they ARE stupid, but they probably aren't hers in the first place.

Maxeem: This young man has been set up as a fall guy by :(www.youtube.com/user/simonshack); he comes from the Minnesota Area. He may be a prisoner in a gilded cage. To his family: someone needs to check on his situation, especially if he lacks the means to leave at anytime. To find him: “All roads lead to Rome.”

If you see any of these people—or people in 911 truth acting similarly in similar situations, be aware you might be dealing with a genuine cult/hostage situation and not just the usual volunteer troll. Be prepared to contact the authorities, either for your safety or theirs.

Also at:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6550

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-28/if-itpart-3-kennebunkport-hoax-and-wq2rx-past-and-future-attacks-911-truth

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/28/870905/-If-this-is-it...Part-3:-Kennebunkport-Hoax-and-WQ2RX:-past-and-future-attacks-in-9-11-Truth

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=48dfd02b9c629380dd10754c0bad109b&showtopic=1392

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3396907/

Next:

If this is it...Part 4 – 9/11 Truth and Nazis among us—The grain of truth in the lie

Previously:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-2-cults-cultures.html

If this is it...Part 2: Cults, cultures, LaRouche and 9/11 truth

2010-05-22T19:05:00.000-07:00

If this is it...

“...Girl don't try to make up phony reasons
I'd rather leave than never believe...”
~mixed feelings re:911truth

Part 2: Cults, cultures, LaRouche and 9/11truth

The words cult and culture have a common Latin root, cultus :care, adoration, from colere to cultivate.
Their definitions have some over lap:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/culture

Relevant definitions:

c : the set of shared attitudes, values, goals, and practices that characterizes an institution or organization d : the set of values, conventions, or social practices associated with a particular field, activity, or societal characteristic

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult

Relevant definition:

5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b : the object of such devotion c : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion

Thus a cult is not necessarily bad—its a synonym for fandom. But of course, thanks to criminal activities of phony religious organizations, the word cult is usually assumed to mean an exploitive organization:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

Cult pejoratively refers to a group whose beliefs or practices could be, reasonably or unreasonably, considered strange.[1] The term originally denoted a system of ritual practices. The narrower, derogatory sense of the word is a product of the 20th century, especially since the 1980s, and is considered subjective, and is a result of the anti-cult movement, which uses the term in reference to groups seen as authoritarian, exploitative and possibly dangerous.

Cult can be used fairly to describe any sub-culture ; as a pejorative term, cult can describe a dysfunctional, malignant and authoritarian subculture. This is relevant because there has been an on again off again attempt to paint the 9/11 truth movement as a malignant cult by detractors, particularly self appointed “debunkers”. The rub is—there's a bit of truth to this idea.

Manufacturing Culture

There's a great book called Manufacturing Consent:

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Economy-Media/dp/0375714499#noop

It analyses how news is reported and subtly spun to convince the mainstream culture of what is reasonable and normal. The result being the most outrageous actions come to be reluctantly tolerated with a shrug of “what can you do?” from the majority of progressives. I see it as a type of uber concern trolling: “Yes, its horrible what the CIA and Ollie North might have done, but we can't throw him in prison for the rest of his life and abolish the CIA—be reasonable.” And people are convinced—in spite of glaring evidence of guilt to make “reasonable” concessions, until they've been reasoned out of taking ANY effective action.

This works especially if the manipulator plays to the target's sense of fair play, justice, “reason”--all the while manipulating the above in bad faith with the sole goal of evading responsibility. Good, kind, and otherwise intelligent people can fall prey to this tactic.

Early in the Bush years, the criticisms of blistering incompetence—coupled with a frustration of a feeble opposition party—led many progressives to be seduced by the sport of Bush Baiting, and chastened by fellow progressives as being inhumane and unnecessarily cruel. Predictably the right pointed to this as a sign progressives were full of hate and rage, and they(Republicans) were victims even though they were in the White House and had a majority. Boo hoo...

But the point is, by distracting from the valid criticisms of incompetence and moving the focus to alleged “hate”, not only did progressive discussion become divided, but the real problem of how to confront bewildering incompetence –and putting pressure on Democrat politicians to do their job--fell by the wayside. Don't get me wrong—I see nothing wrong in abusing a political figure who deserves it. It when the activity becomes a substitute for effective action that its gone a bit far—or people have given up on effective action.

What does this have to do with the 9/11 truth movement? There are signs the 9/11 truth Movement was being shaped into a culture early on—a culture that would push people into habits of criticism without effective action, as well as other self defeating habits. Why do this? Because cultures are a very effective way of managing people indirectly. Once people accept the culture and identify with it personally, they have automatic initial responses to those who appear to threaten that culture. And if they don't pick up on the threat, real or otherwise, once informed about it, real or otherwise, they are inclined to go with the flow unless they have a good reason not to. Even if they don't agree, they're inclined to not challenge the situation unless they have opposing facts. Even then, they inclined to fade away and not say anything instead of rocking the boat. These people aren't stupid—they're just human.
Manufacturing Culture is an effective way of using people's humanity as a weapon of disinformation.

There are parallels with Authoritarian cults, but a manufactured culture is not identical. To completely control someone in a cult you have to control their living situation. Only a handful of people involved in the Truth Movement fit this description; I'll cover them later. However many techniques proper cults use to control people or discourse have been observed in 911Truth:
[Techniques I've observed or have been documented by others are underlined and/or bold]

1 Internal Control: Amount of internal political and social power exercised by leader(s) over members; lack of clearly defined organizational rights for members. 1
_________________________
2 External Control: Amount of external political and social influence desired or obtained; emphasis on directing members’ external political and social behavior. 2
_________________________
3 Wisdom/Knowledge Claimed by leader(s); amount of infallibility declared or implied about decisions or doctrinal/scriptural interpretations; number and degree of unverified and/or unverifiable credentials claimed. 3
_________________________
4 Wisdom/Knowledge Credited to leader(s) by members; amount of trust in decisions or doctrinal/scriptural interpretations made by leader(s); amount of hostility by members towards internal or external critics and/or towards verification efforts. 4
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5 Dogma: Rigidity of reality concepts taught; amount of doctrinal inflexibility or “fundamentalism;” hostility towards relativism and situationalism. 5
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6 Recruiting: Emphasis put on attracting new members; amount of proselytizing; requirement for all members to bring in new ones. 6
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7 Front Groups: Number of subsidiary groups using different names from that of main group, especially when connections are hidden. 7
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8 Wealth: Amount of money and/or property desired or obtained by group; emphasis on members’ donations; economic lifestyle of leader(s) compared to ordinary members. 8
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9 Sexual Manipulation of members by leader(s) of non-tantric groups; amount of control exercised over sexuality of members in terms of sexual orientation, behavior, and/or choice of partners. 9
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10 Sexual Favoritism: Advancement or preferential treatment dependent upon sexual activity with the leader(s) of non-tantric groups. 10
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11 Censorship: Amount of control over members’ access to outside opinions on group, its doctrines or leader(s). 11
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12 Isolation: Amount of effort to keep members from communicating with non-members, including family, friends and lovers. 12
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13 Dropout Control: Intensity of efforts directed at preventing or returning dropouts. 13
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14 Violence: Amount of approval when used by or for the group, its doctrines or leader(s). 14
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15 Paranoia: Amount of fear concerning real or imagined enemies; exaggeration of perceived power of opponents; prevalence of conspiracy theories. 15
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16 Grimness: Amount of disapproval concerning jokes about the group, its doctrines or its leader(s). 16
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17 Surrender of Will: Amount of emphasis on members not having to be responsible for personal decisions; degree of individual disempowerment created by the group, its doctrines or its leader(s). 17
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18 Hypocrisy: amount of approval for actions which the group officially considers immoral or unethical, when done by or for the group, its doctrines or leader(s); willingness to violate the group’s declared principles for political, psychological, social, economic, military, or other gain. 18
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Found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_checklist

What many people miss is these exact same techniques are used by self identified “debunkers” to control members of the ultra rationalist sub-cultures like those found at JREF.

Watch this video on cults and judge for yourself how many manipulation techniques you've observed or been exposed to in Truther or Debunker subcultures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-Hms7bHqY

The biggest difference between dangerous recognized cults and this observed manufactured culture in 911 Truth, while both demonize and vilify people who have left groups with valid criticisms, recognized cults tend to prefer those people were brought back where they can be controlled, the manufactured culture would prefer those people to stay way, presumably because, unlike the proper cult, they know they don't have the resources to completely control ever aspect of people's life. Its safer for people running the show for critics to be kept out, and if possible, not acknowledged. Most of the time this is effective in making the critic give up on the Truth Movement, which by this time has become synonymous with this manipulative artificial culture. In the case of the debunker sympathetic ultra rationalist who has legitimate criticisms of his/her own side, they quickly learn to “not go there” or risk being labelled as a stupid irrational person.

Many of us took umbrage at the idea smear against 9/11 truth as a cult—especially considering how dishonest and transparent the attempt was:

Dazzled by Disinfo: 911cultwatch.org.uk
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2389

Not only did they link to Nico blog as a top resource(until they were shamed into removing it)--a bizarre thing for a “debunker” operation to do--but makes perfect sense if they were part of the disruption/stalker machine. They also linked to the Screw Loose Change run by two hardcore republicans, with a right-wing agenda clear to anyone who reads their personal blogs.

brainster.blogspot.com
thechiefbrief.blogspot.com

These people are often the first to leap on what the perceive as cult behavior and cult connections, at it is clear in context they mean this as a destructive cult, not a sub-culture. There is in reality no truth to the idea truthers as a group belong to an authoritarian destructive cult—BUT there are indications the small group of disruptors/stalkers might belong to such an organization attempting to manufacture an authoritarian cult-like culture inside the 911 truth movement and the supposed debunkers knew about it all along.

Lyndon Larouche and 9/11 Truth

What follows will come as a shock to many people, particularly the Webster Tarpley fans, especially fans of his 9/11 theories—they aren't Tarpley theories at all. They're Lyndon Larouche's 9/11 theories.

From
http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Cult.NineEleven

LaRouche was the very first public figure to challenge the story that the 9/11 attacks were done by Bin Laden's Al Qaeda.
While interviewed by Dr. Jack Stockwell, he was commenting live during the attacks against the Twin Towers:
Stockwell: […]And that is that the Arabs don't have the ability to pull something of this level off. You feel pretty strongly about that?
LaRouche: I know that. I know the Arab governments. I've been talking to them directly or indirectly over some period. At least, the key ones. And they don't want this kind of thing. But I know who does want it.
Stockwell: Alright. Now, you were talking about possibly the idea of the Israeli government --
LaRouche: Or certain factions within it.
LaRouche interviewed by Dr. Jack Stockwell, September 11, 2001
http://laroucheplanet.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Library.StockwellInterview
LaRouche first called it a coup d'etat, an "inside job" with the help of the Israeli Mossad, and then blamed his "usual suspects", the Zionists:
“Under no circumstances, LaRouche assesses, could the attacks of Sept. 11 have been organized and directed by Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda apparatus, based out of Afghanistan. […] LaRouche also emphasizes that the recent years' massive Israeli espionage against and covert-operations penetration of the United States—including the U.S national security and military institutions—may suggest a more direct Israeli involvement in the military coup activities that facilitated the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington. […] This apparatus is part of the "Mega" network of prominent wealthy North American Zionists led by Edgar Bronfman, Ronald Lauder, Michael Steinhardt, et al., who are the leading promoters of Ariel Sharon's suicidal war drive, and who wish to draw the United States into that effort to assure a global conflagration on a scale of the First World War or worse.” "Lyndon H. LaRouche Exposes Sept. 11 Coup-Plotters: "Zbigniew Brzezinski and Sept. 11th"", by Jeffrey Steinberg, Press Release, Jan. 2002
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/2002_gen_press/lar_zbig_pr.html
Israel/Mossad are behind 9/11 and the drive of the Bush administration to invade Iraq:
"Lyndon LaRouche reports that there is now firm evidence that the ongoing drive to induce President George W. Bush to launch a war against Iraq, is a 1996 Israeli government policy that is being foisted on the President by a nest of Israeli agents inside the U.S. government. This Israeli spy network inside the United States was unable achieve their objective until President Bush was entrapped by the events of Sept. 11, 2001 and the falsified accounts of those events provided by this foreign intelligence apparatus, and lured over to their policies. Lyndon LaRouche demands to know: Is this not the motive that explains the who and why of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001? LaRouche demands an immediate Congressional investigation, to help purge the U.S. government of this foreign intelligence apparatus, which attempted, with the 9/11 events, to seize control over U.S. foreign policy." (source: "The Pollard Affair Never Ended!" (press release), EIR, Sept. 8, 2002 )
http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/090802pollard_affr.html
LaRouche calls "9/11" an incident
http://www.larouchepac.com/pages/writings_files/2005/050610_remember_rathenau.htm
LaRouche and Osama bin Laden's friends:

On the role of Jeffrey Steinberg in the spreading of this "blame the Jews" 9/11 Conspiracy Theory into the Arab world:
Jeffrey Steinberg, an editor of Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.'s Executive Intelligence Review,[20] who has appeared on Al-Jazeera and whose articles are regularly translated into Arabic by the Saudi daily Al-Watan claimed to be the one who uncovered the "Israeli spy ring" that was later used by the Arab media. [21] From: "The Events of September 11 and the Arab Media: The New Antisemitic Myth"; September 13, 2002; MEMRI
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR00902
More on Steinberg here(Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11 by Chaim Kupferberg)
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html
LaRouche 9/11 Conspiracy Theory has also been relayed by an "ex-member"; Webster Tarpley (Website at http://www.tarpley.net/)

Tarpley has a history of tarting up Larouche drivel into something that passes at first glance as rational:

The ever-obliging Webster Tarpley, who at least had the advantage of knowing Latin, prepared a totally specious speech to "prove" Lyn's thesis that Latin was a fascist, imperialist linguistic construct.
When Lyn stutters and stammers incoherently about "But polluted with a certain number of Latin loan words, which were the technical terms, like equus and [cavallo?]--difference,” he's referring to one of Webster's key "proofs" that the Romance languages descended, not from Latin, but from Italian, and that Italian did not descend from Latin.
That "proof" was the fact that the French word for horse is cheval; the Italian, cavallo; the Spanish, caballo. But, said Webster triumphantly, the Latin word for horse is equus. Therefore, we see that French and Spanish (and Portuguese and Romanian) are derived from Italian, not this fake language Latin.
Of course, Webster did not bother to tell his glazed-eyed audience that, just as English has more than one word for horse (horse, steed, nag, courser, etc. etc.), so does Latin. Guess what one of those words is? Caballus. The Latin word for horseman is caballarius--suspiciously like, for example, Spanish caballero, or French chevalier.
See what I mean? It is believed that Latin got the word caballus from Gaulish--a Celtic tongue--from whence it passed through to the Romance languages.
Well, you get the idea. Webster was intellectually dishonest in his speech because he was trying to curve-fit to prove Lyn's ridiculous point.

http://lyndonlarouchewatch.org/larouche-classics.htm

A revealing statement[bold mine]:

Lyn goes to jail and the org withers away as many people leave, barely with the shirt on their back. We hook up with a Scientology offshoot in the Christic Institute and see that there is money to be made in now attacking the right wing, which we were always accused of working for. IRan Contra gives us an idea, so we now move towards our version of the left.

Among the Hollywood liberals who we attacked like clockwork was Ed Asner and his PAC. Asner was one of our main enemies in the past.

Bush and Cheney come to office which gives us new life as these guys are the new Anti Christ for the left. Lyn proclaims that Bush Sr. put him in Jail while Clinton set him free to save humanity.

Time can make people forget things and lo and behold, Ed Asner gives Lyn a few hundred bucks and shows up at a campaign meeting in Ca..

Since many Hollywood people live in fantasy land, Lyn's fantasies are streamlined and the org purges its history and starts over with LYM. A project is carried out where members in certain areas quietly leave the org and turn up in positions of either journalists for a few papers like Le Monde and The Nation. Other people set up their own traveling road show and hit the jack pot using Larouche and the org's lunacy without naming Lyn. Webster Tarpley and Bill Endghal do this full time.

http://forum.laroucheplanet.info/comments.php?DiscussionID=4&page=12

What does this mean for the 9/11 Truth movement? Several things:

1: Webster Tarpley's theories are Lyndon Larouche's theories
2: any fan of Tarpley's theories are actually fans of Larouche's theory, though they may not know it.
3: by promoting LaRouches 911 theory, Tarpley is almost certainly still part of the of the Lyndon Larouche PAC
4: and by extension has those resources to draw of to help him in his “mission”.
5: If there is organized activity to manipulate the 9/11 truth movement via cult-like manipulations, the Larouch PAC is the most likely source.
6: Endorsing Webster Tarpley is endorsing Lyndon Larouche

Some people may not understand why this is a bad thing. “Yeh, the guys a nutter, but maybe he's right about some things.” Maybe, but its not responsible to promote a source that is dishonest and draws its support from a a criminal organization who takes a mafia approach to handling critics:

http://www.lyndonlarouchewatch.org/miles.htm
http://lyndonlarouche.org/nancy-kissinger.htm
http://imagine2050.newcomm.org/2010/02/10/fair-and-lyndon-larouche-of-soul-mates-and-front-groups/

[9/11truth isn't Larouche's only "project". You'll find many instances of racist/offensive material directed at Obama originates with Larouche's—attempts to undermine real critics of Obama?]
http://washingtonindependent.com/55566/was-barney-franks-nazi-questioner-a-larouchie

Putting the Kennebunkpost Hoax into perspective:

www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/21/143911/917

Just because 9/11 was not done by “the Arabs” does not mean it was done by “the Jews”, or even Israel. And for the rare sincere Truther, who is NOT a-Nazi wannabe and who believes there's value in researching possible Israeli involvement, they'd do themselves a favor to NOT use sources from a political cult leader implicated in murder. Nor would they want to associate themselves with the criminal cult tactics used by fake truthers and debunkers alike in the wake of the Kennebunkport Hoax.

In closing be aware: there is a malignant artificial culture infecting the 911 Truth movement. It has been there from almost day one, and overlaps (as much as it can get away with) genuine activism. It plays off of your justified fears, gains trust appealing to truths you know, takes advantage of your sense of fair play and free speech to try to convince you to discard intellectual discrimination and critical thinking skills. A person started out researching 9/11 and find themselves surrounded by people pushing the New Lizard World Order run by Jews that used Directed energy space beams on 9/11. And no closer to either understanding what happened or a new investigation. It sounds insane, but this happens. Good, kind, and otherwise intelligent people falling prey to ignoring and/ or excusing the worse theories and/or behavior because of their investment in the culture. It takes a serious shock for many of them to snap out of it—unfortunately for many that wake up call comes in the form of vicious cult-like harassment when they refuse to toe the party line agenda, that's more interested in promoting Jews/alien/space beam rubbish than justice for the victims of 9/11.

Next:

If this is it..Part 3: Kennebunkport and WQ2RX: past and future attacks in 9/11Truth

Also at:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=38105

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/26/870024/-If-this-is-it...Part-2:Cults,-cultures,-LaRouche-and-9-11

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-24/if-itpart-2-cults-cultures-larouche-and-911

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=48dfd02b9c629380dd10754c0bad109b&showtopic=1391

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3376536/

Previously:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2010/05/if-this-is-itpart-1-neutered-memesthe.html

If this is it…Part 1-Neutered Memes—The Matrix, 1984 and 9/11truth

2010-05-21T07:31:00.000-07:00

If this is it …

“...Girl don't lie, just to save my feelings
Girl don't cry, and tell me nothing's wrong...
~re:mixed feelings about 9/11 truth

Part 1-Neutered Memes—The Matrix, 1984 and 911truth

This is the first of several parts of subcultural analysis overlooked re-911truth. In this case, not just overlooked, but twisted in meaning and now so divorced from its roots the once rich memes are meaningless. And for those rolling their eyes at "9/11 truth", much of what follows applies to anti-war activism generally.

The Matrix

Take the Matrix. Very popular movie, rich with symbolism and philosophy. It was inevitable its memes and metaphors would be applied to politics, especially radical politics, and the ideas, as presented by the Warshawski brothers had so many layers, there was no one “right” or “correct” interpretation of the philosophy. Maybe it was inevitable people who identified with an overwhelming struggle for freedom and justice would see themselves in Neo, the One prophesied to end the War between the Machines and Zion. And it doesn't take too much imagination to stretch the metaphor of the Matrix—a system of control for the benefit if a few exploiting the contrived ignorance of the many—to various socio-political constructs in the modern world. Tom Tomorrow did a great cartoon about the Bush administration :

There's also a series of cute and clever videos exposing factory farming (and encouraging free-range alternatives) called the Meatrix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEkc70ztOrc

So , yeh, the Matrix has given inspiration to many political activists. 911Truth is no different. There's a user called Red-Pill, another called Neomulder, and the idea people need to unplug and wake up has been repeated to the point its become a blind slogan of cultural self affirmation about supposedly being more aware than the “sheeple” about how the world works.

Its perfectly human and understandable to want to draw inspiration from a hero that catches one's imagination. And it can be a harmless comforting fantasy. The problem –besides taking the Matrix idea way too seriously/literally--is these people are taking one aspect of the Matrix philosophy way out of context. These people want to identify as and embrace the philosophy of the One, thinking it will set them free. But –either not being hard core Matrix fans or distracted by the special effects--they've missed the Warshawskis' subtleties: the One is NOT a messiah or hero, though he is deceived into thinking so. The One is another control of the Matrix. It is only when Neo rejects his “destiny” that a real solution becomes possible.

Chew on that a bit. The idea of swallowing the Red Pill and waking up to the Truth of 911 is a nice feel good meme pushed in 911truth. We're all like Neo, eh? We're all going to save the world from the now by “spreading the TRUTH” , which will magically makes us free in some vague way. But what is really happening to all these mini-Neo's is they've become another control of the system.

I'm not saying the Matrix meme is worthless, but if its going to have relevant value, follow the metaphor completely—just seeing the world for what it is doesn't free you by itself. You need to form a new model and new approach to it, one that doesn't play into the hands of the institutions and authorities your supposedly challenging.

1984

Another popular dystopian work mined for memes to neuter is 1984. Everyone likes to focus of the flash—the “sexy” stuff—Newspeak, Double-think, Thought Police, surveillance and general fascist yuckiness. “Gee, it could really get bad if someone did this!” “Gosh, you're right! I hope that doesn't happen!” Well—with all due respect —duh. It makes one happy George Orwell didn't live to see his masterpiece butchered by political hacks...

Its not that all that flash isn't important—it does help to illustrate ideas that could happen. But what doesn't help is taking an idea and twisting its meaning so much it is virtually the opposite of what Orwell intended. For instance:

Double-think: Orwell was describing a neurosis a person would develop when their very survival depends on apparent fervent belief in bullshite. Its a glorified state of denial—they know factual reality so they can function in a superficially rational way—for instance, around things called electrical outlets, even if the Party line they must express unwavering loyalty to claims electricity is “just a theory”. (Yes, that is a jab at Creationism.) Orwell was insightful of the ways a fanatic must delude themselves to survive, but he was a bit off on the details. It turns out uber-fascist regimes don't produce Double-think so much as stupidity—we know this observing the Nazi regime where the Third Riech seriously suffered in science and research—and military strategy-- because ideology came before facts. Still, its a useful concept to describe a psychologically trapped person's ability to apparently function rationally in an irrational situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

But theres another definition of Double-think in circulation—especially among disruptors and trolls—which is a slur they use against anyone who doesn't agree with them, especially when they want to imply manipulation when they know the facts aren't on their side, but they want to sound erudite. Ironically, by trying to manipulate and redefine Double-think to fit their agenda these trolls reveal they are engaging in, ahem, Doublethink. Unless they really don't believe what they're saying, in which case they are simply liars.

Thought Police: that used to be popular. Express a desire to have higher standards—hell, even explicitly express a live and let live policy—and some wankers will go out of their way, re-register where they're banned under a new name just to misguidedly battle the “thought police”. By which they mean people who are trying to stop them from expressing themselves, even if they have to go out of their way to troll a forum to prove the thought police are oppressing them.

But that is not what the Thought-Police are. Thought Police were people who monitored people's ideas and conversations to catch and punish those who did not follow the party line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Police

Various programs proposed to spy on civilians under the Patriot act fall in this category, as do most attempts to monitor/ manipulate grass-roots activist groups. Not being able to drivel on about a pet theory at someone else's forum does not. If one really thinks it does, they need to grow up. And besides—if a forum is really full of nasty though police, why would one want to go to there in the first place? Its like they're trolling because they want to punish people for not following their party line—as if they were, um, Thought Police.

Newspeak: This is a pet peeve of mine. I hate it when a once meaningful phrase, through media manipulation and repetition, its rendered meaningless noise. A famous one was “politically correct”. Most people of all political stripes currently have the idea—with much assistance from the right media for over two decades—that “politically correct” means being too liberal or too sensitive. It does not. It is a specific term describing the quality of interaction between a politician and the public she/he wishes to influence. It is irrespective of political sympathy or affiliation. It is a measure of effectiveness, not a measure of a political bias. The best way to illustrate this is a non-standard example:

Bob Bollox, a conservative senator, speaks at a Christian Conservative fund-raiser. He praises God and Jesus and says the usual fluff about “values”. This is politically correct—that is, it is the correct thing to say to influence the “polis” he is addressing. Then he starts to ramble about building bridges between parties and says something to the effect the only reasonable position on abortion is that a woman has the right to choose. This statements is considered, by prevailing wisdom to be politically correct. But its not—in this circumstance.

PC is a relative term and meaningless without the relationship between politician and polis. But thanks to Rush Limbaugh, and whoallelse—who were deeply deeply offended social justice was marching on and went out of their way to overexpose the rare, extreme and ridiculous stories of supposed-ed Pcness as an IMMINENT THREAT TO CIVILIZATION AS WE KNOW IT—this once useful political term has been stripped of meaning except as a vague slur.

Note: this was NOT a natural drift of meaning in the language. It was a direct result of media manipulation, possibly retaliation against lefties pointing out politically incorrect behaviour of certain Republicans when addressing say, populations of layed off workers as if everything was roses.[my personal theory based on the time I observed this dynamic 80'-90's]

Here again, Orwell has much correct, but didn't see a simpler enforcement of Newspeak: you don't need to abbreviate words, though that helps. Its sufficient to strip them of meaning through repetition and misleading associations, without dinking with spelling. A bit like the repeated misuse of Doublethink and Thought Police...

But this is all just flash....symptoms of a deeper sinister message Orwell was trying to communicate, which is: the opposition is controlled. That's right Neo...I mean Winston: Obrien, the legendary leader of the resistance, that Big Brother has marked as Public Enemy Number 1, is another control of the system.

You almost never hear people in love with using 1984 as a political meme mention this aspect. Mostly they just weren't paying attention, or its been a long time since they read it. But there's another crowd that really prefers you focus on the flash—not the man behind the curtain. And its easy to pull people that way, because the probable reality 1984 suggests is not only depressing, but leaves most people at a loss for solutions. Its human in the face of despair to look for escape and comfort in a fantasy of lone messiahs fighting a cardboard NWO villain. It simple, comforting, but its not accurate—and more importantly, its not going to work.

As depressing as controlled opposition sounds, its not impossible to work around. Not confront, not “fight”--because frankly the people organizing controlled opposition have far more resources in a toe to toe fight. And unless your group really knows what its doing, you're likely to just give the wankers more ammunition in a battle of wits. The best strategies should be build around recognizing your core goals and focus on what you need to do to get there, and not let distractions derail you. As the greens put it—don't over throw, but out grow the opposition. The opposition will be obvious when it tries to push you about:

--people making strong suggestions for YOU to do things you're not comfortable with, but reluctant to volunteer themselves.
--guilt tripping and other manipulation to manage behavior
--punishment by way of trolling a list or other retaliation when they don't get their own way
--blindly endorsing people who have lost political effectiveness
--when people agree theres' a problem but do nothing, not even to protect themselves from supposed threats
--when no one but you thinks there is a problem, and its an obvious problem[libel, theft, vandalism, a really, really bad idea]

All these are symptoms of the controlled opposition. If you see these repeatedly over a period of a month or more you need to manage your group/list and remove the source. If you are the only one who sees this, its time to leave. No speeches, no sudden moves—archive everything in case the nutters try stalk you, and quietly leave making plausible excuses(work is really busy, studies are harder this term, or just stop showing up)

Note: individuals maybe unaware of their role as a disruptor having been immersed in the artificial culture created to manipulate them....

Next:

If this is it..Part 2: Cults, cultures, LaRouche and 911truth

ALSO at:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/5/21/868534/-If-this-is-it...Part-1-Neutered-MemesThe-Matrix,-1984-and-9-11-truth

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=38097

http://911blogger.com/news/2010-05-21/if-it%E2%80%A6part-1-neutered-memes%E2%80%94-matrix-1984-and-911truth

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=48dfd02b9c629380dd10754c0bad109b&showtopic=1390

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3376529/

Welcome to Failtown

2009-12-02T18:13:00.000-08:00

Many things to update around here--been away a bit--but I'll let Mr. 6199 do the heavy work dealing with Whoretown's latest bollox--he says it all and says it well. ;-)

WQ2RX stalker central bites the dust

2009-11-04T13:28:00.000-08:00

Additional[June 2, 2011]: If you have been directed to this blog by Craig Lazo, before you help spread his lies, you should be aware his facebook account was suspended after spreading lies about people. This could happen to you too, fyi.

Additional[Dec 1, 2009]: there seems to be a bit of traffic from a sad creepy blog. This link may help new readers keep things in context:

click link for your information

Additional ends.

I've held off saying anything--it might have been a temporary glitch or a bug. But it appears what people are saying is true--WQ2RX stalker central--AKA Killtown's forum 911movement.org-- has bit the dust.

Check yourself:

http://s7.invisionfree.com/911movement

No harm linking to a dead site.

What others on the Interwebs say:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/2463674/

http://z15.invisionfree.com/911taboo/index.php?s=618d6a99d50f40fa209e5431e6901c13&showtopic=1248

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?s=693648d98a87608a22bf4e1524983c66&t=86063

Theories vary from the webmaster leaving to Invisionfree pulling it after one too many Terms of Use violations. My guess would be the latter--these people never quit of their own accord.

Mind, there are a couple of places vying to be the next "go to" site for harassment and disruption among internet 9/11 activists. If they're smart, they'll take this as a caution: all the psychos--and people working with the psychos-- thought Whoretown was untouchable.

He's not.
Neither was his forum.
Neither is anyone elses.

Food for thought for those who know they're screwing with people.

And one should always observe the proper forms of ettiquette on these solemn occasions:

One source of 9/11spam and what to do about it

2009-09-16T19:26:00.000-07:00

Mark this fact--I have never published any email address online in connection to 911truth. Not even the new one. It does not come up in Google search.

See? Never published, never crawled. So how the fuck did these people get it?

The only people I know who have it are:

1-Friends in 911truth--all of whom know better than to sign me up for list without my knowledge.

2-WQ2RX stalkers--among them the charming lass Jennifer Wynhausen, who uses various email addresses for harassment.

3-From an email sent to various activists including three Larouchites(Webster Tarpley, Bruce Marshall and Craig Hill, assisted byJim Fetzer, Kevin Barrett) --as a result of good faith efforts to try to resolve the Kennebunkport bollox.

Removing the first group from the list of suspects--friends and associates in 911truth--I must come to the conclusion Griffin and Elinoff have email lists culled from internet stalkers and Larouchite disruptors in 911 truth.

Maybe Elinoff and Griffin don't know that's where the lists came from, but that's not my problem. No, I'm not going to email them to ask to be taken off the list--that will just give them more information they don't have a right to.

We all know from the post Kennebunkport online harassment campaign that information from private lists was released about people without their consent. This habit may have finally backfired in real life.But let's see what some websites say about private mailing lists and what the owners of those lists are allowed to do with the information:

http://www.ipsh.net/website/liability.html

The content of messages sent to addresses from a third party list must be consistent with the disclosure made to the recipients upon initial provision of the email address or phone number. As a list owner, you are fully responsible for any third party's adherence to our policies for lists which you obtain and use in our system. Any violation of our policies by third parties will be seen as violations by you, and will subject your account to disciplinary action, termination, and fees accordingly.

http://www.shamash.org/help/aup.shtml

Any distribution of e-mail addresses of Shamash mailing list subscribers, list owners, or account holders, for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, is prohibited.

http://drupal.meetup.com/terms/

4.4 Restriction on Use of Your Information. Except as otherwise provided in our privacy policy, we will not sell, rent or otherwise disclose any of your Personally Identifiable Information (as defined in our privacy policy) about you (including your email address) to any third party.

But what about private Yahoo! lists?

http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/utos-173.html

"Publicly accessible" areas of the Yahoo! Services are those areas of the Yahoo! network of properties that are intended by Yahoo! to be available to the general public. By way of example, publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services would include Yahoo! Message Boards and portions of Yahoo! Groups and Flickr that are open to both members and visitors. However, publicly accessible areas of the Yahoo! Services would not include portions of Yahoo! Groups that are limited to members, Yahoo! services intended for private communication such as Yahoo! Mail or Yahoo! Messenger, or areas off of the Yahoo! network of properties such as portions of World Wide Web sites that are accessible via hypertext or other links but are not hosted or served by Yahoo!.

And particularly for those who think Yahoo! groups are a free for all--not so much:

http://groups.yahoo.com/local/guidelines.html

You cannot re-post or re-transmit content that belongs to another user without that user's permission. A Groups owner or moderator (or any other user) cannot re-post or re-transmit Groups content to any other site unless the person has the explicit permission of every group member whose content is being re-posted or re-transmitted.

Hmm--so, at casual glance, most sites pretty much agree passing out people's email addresses --among other things--without consent, is not okay. Using those addresses to "volunteer" them for newletters they don't know about is in fact the definition of SPAM:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spam

Which can be legal provided:

Spam is legally permissible according to the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 provided it follows certain criteria: a truthful subject line, no false information in the technical headers or sender address, and other minor requirements. If the spam fails to comply with any of these requirements it is illegal. Aggravated or accelerated penalties apply if the spammer harvested the email addresses using methods described earlier.

Those methods are:

Spammers collect e-mail addresses from chatrooms, websites, customer lists, newsgroups, and viruses which harvest users' address books, and are sold to other spammers.

But lets be real--neither Elinoff or Griffin used viruses to get my email--they got it from the same sacks of shite making a career out of harassing 911activists and survivors. And they may have violated their Internet providers terms of use:

Sending spam violates the Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) of almost all Internet Service Providers.

Hope you're reading Mr. Griffin and Mr. Elinoff. However you got my email, I can guarantee it came from a WQ2RX stalker list without my consent. And was passed around--with many others no doubt-- to spread general annoyance. No, it did not come from a Loose Change mailing list(as someone suggested)--because I've never been on that list. And even if it had, the proper way to do these things is to send out ONE announcement introducing yourself and INVITING people to sign up. Not taking a list of email addresses and running with it. I'd like to assume this is all just an honest cockup. But the history of email harassment and spam in 911truth idicates otherwise.

The first I ever heard about Core of Corruption:

Core of Corruption

Tuesday, February 3, 2009 8:50 AM
From:"CoreOfCorruption@gmail.com
"col_jennysparks@xxxx

Welcome.

This is an automatic response to a subscription request started at Core of Corruption.

Thanks for subscribing.

This project that has been exclusively worked on for over 5 years will involve the release of 5 films, all of which will detail a complete and comprehensive case of corruption and conspiracy with video news clips. Most of these clips are not available on the internet and have not been seen since they aired.

The series is going to cover a complete and comprehensive case about the biggest conspiracy in the world and the evidence that proves it exists. It connects Kennedy, Iran Contra, Watergate, Drug Running, 9/11 and even the current economic crisis we’re in today with all the same figures and a central theme of how they did it will also be shown. Never before seen video evidence and news clips have been surfaced for this groundbreaking event.

http://www.CoreOfCorruption.com

Tell everyone about this. email, blog, embed and anything you see fit. Contact everyone about this and do what you can to help make this big.

And another on the 11th of February:

Other people appeared to have complained. At the bottom of a later email:

If you feel you've received this email in error of to unsubscribe to this newsletter, go to http://coreofcorruption.com/index.php, enter your email address in the "email" box, check the "Unsubscribe" box, and click Submit.

Here's the problem: according to CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 :

Unsubscribe compliance

A visible and operable unsubscribe mechanism is present in all emails.

Consumer opt-out requests are honored within 10 days.
Opt-out lists also known as suppression lists are only used for compliance purposes.

A visible and operable unsubscribe mechanism is a link in the email you click to unsubscribe(anyone part of a Yahoo! group can see these at the bottom of messages), not an invitation to visit a dodgy site and its possible malware. In my case this person obtained the email under questionable circumstances--it'll be a cold day in hell before I visit their site without a proxy. If anyone is in a similar situation, and there is no link to unsubscribe--just block the sods. "In error" my arse.

You can also report them to http://www.usdoj.gov/spam.htm .

May not do more than make you feel better, but there will be a record if they stir up more trouble. Oh--and their internet service providers. In my case that is, respectively:

Elinoff
Info@CoreOfCorruption.com
CoreOfCorruption@xxx:

1-COSENTRY.NET, LLC

2- http://www.qwest.com/corporate/customerService/contactus/

Griffin
davraygrif@xxxx:

http://ww2.cox.com/aboutus/contact-us.cox

Honestly, the amount of spam from these lads has been relatively tame. But that has not always been the case with 9/11 spam and God knows when and if someone wants to turn the clock back. What makes this concerning is the information used to subscribe me without consent is directly traced to the WQ2RX stalking shite. It comes from no other source. And the question is how will these email addresses--already obtained without consent--be used in the future? Will they pop up in more Internet stalkers masterpeices with eveyone baffled as to "how that happened"? Not if I can help it.

They all need to stop.

Stop sharing people's email without consent.
Stop sending unsolicited emails.
Stop subscribing people without their knowledge.

Don't be clever. Don't see what angel can be worked. Don't spin.

Just. Stop.

If anyone fancies a chat with either Mr. Griffin or Mr. Elinoff about their business practices, hoping to "reach them", good luck with that.

Truth Actions on September 11--around the world

2009-09-13T01:38:00.001-07:00

For more visit Truth Action:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5838

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5823

Click on tag for previous blog/links.

Kevin Barrett invites me to Facebook?

2009-09-03T15:32:00.000-07:00

...for some ungodly reason. The first invite he sent was June 1st. Got another one yesterday:

Hope this isn't the first wave of a new 9/11 anniversary harassment campaign a la the post Kennebunkport Hoax's WQ2RX bollox:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/05/attacks-on-truthmove-return-of-wq2rx.html

Besides, wasn't Kev fired in 2008?

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15031#15031

Which I blogged about?

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/its-official-kev-youre-fired.html

So why is Kev trying to stir the pot by "inviting me" to Facebook as if I'm someone who'd be interested in having anything to do with him? BTW, IMHO Facebook seems to be another waste of time disguised as "social networking". Sorry, Facebook fans--maybe I'll change my mind in time, but that's what it looks like from here so far. Observe--current time I'm wasting typing about it--and I'm not even on Facebook.

Kev has also sent me unwanted email in the past--which I blocked. Then he decided it was a bright idea to send me more email--from a different address--which was also blocked. That and a legion of dodgy activities eventually led to this:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/02/lying-with-dogs-at-waterloo.html

Suppose I shouldn't be too surprised Kev's unclear on email harassment-- the girlfriend of a man he interviewed is equally confused by the concept:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/911-stalker-update-its-not-nico-but-he.html

Do people know Kevin was involved with the blatant stalker site wheretheylive.org?

reading in part:

WHERETHEYLIVE.ORG is founded in the spirit of Thoreau, Gandhi, King, Abdul-Ghaffar Khan, and the many other heroes of principled nonviolent resistance. It will publicize the home addresses of those who are alleged to have seriously abused their power over others, for the purpose of facilitating legal, NONVIOLENT demonstrations on public property outside those home addresses, in accordance with the people’s right to petition for redress of grievances as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States of America, international law, and principles of universal justice.

Nowhere is it made clear if these people who are alleged to have done something wrong are private citizens or public servants.

See, the big problem with this site is, since public figures already have and approve of their personal information being available(as per definition of public figure), the only people Wheretheylive.org could be talking about are private persons. That would mean they are asking for help to stalk private people. And matches, in intent, some bizarre reports of Killtown's girlfriend bragging about taking people around to where she thought I lived about the same time as the WQ2RX harassment campaign. Wheretheylive.org was likely a project set up to harass activists but, under bad press, was scrapped in favor of the anonymous WQ2RX stalking campaign.

Who owns the domain for wheretheylive.org? None other than--you guessed it--Kevin Barrett.

So, no I will not be Kev's Facebook "fwiend". I am not friends with domestic abusers and people who help Larouchites and internet stalkers.

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22476#22476

Kev, the answer is "No". "No" means "no". No , nyet, non, nein.

NO.

Does he really want me to keep reminding people why?

Ranke self-promotion via Melissa Data front website

2009-08-29T21:03:00.000-07:00

Additional[June 2, 2011]: If you have been directed to this blog by Craig Lazo, before you help spread his lies, you should be aware his facebook account was suspended after spreading lies about people. This could happen to you too, fyi.

UPDATE: I've received word someone is a wee bit upset Mr. Ranke and Melissa Data activities have been connected to Nazi sympathizers and Internet stalkers. A suggestion--instead of trying to spin and lie about it, Melissa Data should remove all the material their employees obtained from Internets stalkers--then email all parties affected that they have done so. That would probably have more effect than trying to lie about Mr. Ranke's wanna be "killtown" antics. And anyone wondering--yes, it can be proven Mr. Ranke and his forum have knowingly reposted material obtained by Internet stalkers.
UPDATE ENDS

See previously re Melissa Data...here.

The question of responsibility for CIT spoke's man Craig Ranke may have been answered. It appears the public corporation Melissa Data Inc is aware of and supportive of Ranke's online CIT activities.

An anonymous article dated Aug 30 was published on New-n-Views, an online journal based in Rancho Santa Margarita , CA.

http://www.news-n-views.com/asp/articlenews.asp?place=0659587&issue_date=8/30/2009&edent=2167894&art_id=2560

(Sorry, no page rank for Ranke. Proxy strongly advised to visit this "news" site)

This article praises and plugs CIT, of course never mentioning their calls for people to virtual stalk their "enemies" in their Face-to-Name thread or their attempts to white wash the actual circumstances. To read this article you'd never think CIT or Ranke were recording witnesses without permission or republishing some of Killtown's internet stalking material. The comments include "Judy Jetson" plugs:

Comment by steve collier 8/29/2009

Here is a dvd of dr judy wood's evidence...please get a copy its very important http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/911-DR-JUDY-WOOD-EXPOSES-9-11-DIRECTED-ENERGY-COVER-UP_W0QQitemZ230368211069QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CDsDVDs_DVDs_DVDs_GL?hash=item35a303f07d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Comment by steve collier 8/29/2009

Aso please look at dr judy wood's evidence regards the dustification of the twin towers ...see her website www.drjudywood.com

Not too surprising with others dropping links to Killtown and related material:

Comment by Mike Selene

8/29/2009

@lefty, was there really another explosion? From what I have read, the firefighters pulled down the wall. There are pics of a book open on a stand in the part of the building exposed by that, no fire damage. Only small holes after the impact, http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/6.jpg from http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html I am surprised there is no huge copypaste from Scheuerman here yet, but maybe he was just assigned to the wtc 7 postings? Height of the plane at the site is a critical piece of knowledge. Why release black box recordings from a fly-over? To confuse the situation more, or was that a move by someone on the inside? These guys have also gone over the flight data, http://pilotsfor911truth.org/ The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

CLG 9/11 Exposition Zone http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html Lori R. Price Managing Editor Citizens For Legitimate Government http://www.legitgov.org/

Hmm--is that how he got started? Well it's over for him now...

So who wrote the article praising CIT? It was Ranke himself--he published an exact duplicate with his byline at Op-Ed news dated August 27, 2009:

INDEPENDENT-INVESTIGATION-by-Craig-Ranke

That's three days before the New-n-Views, probably to give the impression they(News-n-Views) just picked it up on the net via some feed. Though it doesn't explain why the first comments in New-n-Views are dated Aug 29th, one day before the article's alleged publish date of Aug 30th:

Thing is, New-n-Views isn't much for 911 or anti war news. They're really more the local mini drama type--or so they appear:

With their oldest archives going back to March 2009, they appear to have no connection to Ranke or his employer--

--if one doesn't bother to hunt up their domain:

Or simply Google their contact number 1-800-247-0806 :

Thought they would have learned that lesson by now....

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/cit-more-company-contacts-inspiriant.html

So, not only is New-N-Views on Melissa Data servers, but the domain was registered through Go Daddy by Melissa Data Corp. on June 16, 2009. Which begs the question of how this alleged new site could have news in its archives dated in March of this year:

News-n-Views appears to be a hoax news site, a type of astro-turf with the sole purpose of boosting the activities of one of Melissa Data's employees.

Is Melissa Data engaged in questionable business practices? Readers may want to inquire the the Better Business Bureau:

http://www.la.bbb.org/FAQ.aspx

If one has more tangible or relevant evidence, a complaint can be filed here:

http://www.la.bbb.org/ComplaintDetail.aspx?CompanyID=35001147

	Melissa Data Corporation
	22382 Avenida Empresa
	Rancho Santa Margarita , CA 92688

Contact:	Gary Van Roekel

Other fraudulent practices should be reported to this office:

Attorney General's Office California Department of Justice

In summary: Melissa Data Inc. created an entire news website, designed to appear unconnected to its public corporation. It's archives go back before the domain actually existed, suggesting a deliberate attempt to make the site look older than it's two months. Some articles are feeds from other sources, like this one:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/lam-authorities-contact-2541833-year-old

But no feed can retroactively include articles dated before the site existed.

This article was written by Nicole Melissa --dated March 15, 2009-- 3 months before the domain registry. At the very least, it shows people were writing articles for a site that was only in the planing stages, implying New-n-Views is a project.

Maybe they do things different in California. Maybe it's a cock up of grand proportions with a complicated but honest explanation. But I doubt it. On the surface, New-n-Views appears to be an elaborate hoax created by Melissa Data Corp, to provide one "news" platform to plug the Citizen's Investigation Team. The logical assumption is that Melissa Data, as a public corporation, supports , endorses and is ultimately responsible for the research and actions of CIT, and by extension Craig Ranke.

If this is the case, I'd suggest Raymond F. Melissa get his arse in gear, stop pretending he's doesn't know what's going on and clean up CIT's act. (Also http://citwatch.blogspot.com/)

Then some of us don't have to write about it anymore.

Compliments to jimd3100 of 911blogger for the tip.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=4298.msg794337#msg794337

UPDATE: someone has noticed the dodgy dates and "fixed" them:

before:

after:

Interesting "bug" they've got...

Troy from West Virginia caught abusing children

2009-08-25T13:02:00.000-07:00

It's a terrible thing to be right, so it is.

While back I wrote regarding malignant narcissists:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/01/heroes-evolution-through-disruption.html

Its important to note these people are sane. The proof? When confronted with real consequences, they will capitulate to a higher authority—the law, police, etc. That is how you know
a: they are not crazy and
b: they know exactly what they are doing.

And since many of them are ego invested in being good people, their capitulation will come with excuses like: “It was all a misunderstanding!”

To a certain extent they are genuinely out of control. The need to manipulate and bully to feel good drives them. They will never apologize and never admit they are wrong on their own.

This emotionally crippled package is of great use to the witting manager if used carefully. They are invested in the status quo. They are terrified of change. Because their empathy is stunted, they are capable of doing many things. Unfortunately, their use is limited by the fact the malignant narcissist is always burning bridges and eventually their past victims will meet up and no amount of dissembling or lies will hide them forever. They are also high maintenance. They must be handled firmly by debt, employment or some other obligation because they literally can't be trusted. If they’re exposed, this cuts both ways, because then the manager is stuck with them. This is IMO the most probable personality that is recruited, convinced, maybe even volunteers, for the worst of harassment.

And did we hit the jackpot of malignant narcissism where Troy is concerned:

http://www.dailymail.com/policebrfs/200908120411

Police Briefs

Wednesday August 12, 2009

Witness says Putnam dad carried small son across field by one ankle

by From staff reports

PUTNAM COUNTY, W.Va. -- A Putnam County man charged with abusing his sons at a public ballfield has been released on bond but has been ordered to have no contact with his children until the case is resolved.

Troy Palmer Sexton, 36, of Summit Ridge Road, Hurricane, is facing domestic battery charges after carrying his 6-year-old son across a field by one ankle and allowing the child's helmeted head to hit the ground "more than once," according to a criminal complaint filed in Putnam Magistrate Court.

Sexton was with his four children, including 6-year-old triplets, at the field behind Winfield Elementary on Aug. 6 when a witness saw him being rough with his children during football practice.

Winfield Patrolmen Al Mick and Patrolman Robert Flinn met Putnam Sheriff's Deputy Chad Weaver at the field and found Sexton's vehicle blocked by the vehicles of other parents.

Sexton was described by officers as standing 6 feet 3 inches tall and weighing about 275 pounds. Police said the man looked calm as they approached.

A witness told Mick she saw Sexton leave his seat, cross the field and lift one of his sons above his head and slam him to the ground.

Another witness told police the father had approached the coaching staff and told them his sons were disappointing to him, he was ashamed of their performance on the field and he was taking them home, the patrolman said.

Sexton then grabbed his other son from the bench, "pinched and twisted" his hip and lifted him off the ground by his ankle, Mick said he was told by a witness.

Sexton walked off the field as he carried his son upside down by the ankle, causing the child's helmeted head to hit the ground "more than once," the complaint said.

He then threw the boy over a chain link fence that surrounds the field and the boy landed hard on the ground.

"It took everybody there by surprise," Mick said of the spectators at the field that day.

"It took them a second to realize this is really happening, this is real."

Mick said witnesses told him that after they realized what was going on, several parents rushed onto the field to confront the man. The criminal complaint said an onlooker yelled, "You can't do that to a child!" They said Sexton responded, "Mind your own f-ing business!"

Police said the man tried to leave the field with his four children but was prevented by onlookers who had moved their vehicles to block him and prevent him from leaving.

When police arrived, Sexton was standing with the triplets - the two boys and a girl - and another daughter who appeared to be slightly older, Mick said. Bruising was visible on one boy's legs, the patrolman said.

"The children were still visibly upset, emotional, crying, obviously scared to death," Mick said.

The officer said Sexton admitted to treating his two sons in such a manner but said he did not see why everyone was making such a big deal about it.

Mick said he asked some of the mothers at the field to take the man's children away so they wouldn't see their father arrested and to ensure their safety.

"The mama bears took good care of them, got them something to eat and to drink," Mick said. "I'm very proud of the way the community came together to take care of those kids."

The man was arrested at the field without incident and charged with two counts of domestic battery, misdemeanors. He was released on $20,000 bond Friday.

The children are in the custody of their mother, who was at work when the incident occurred, at their Hurricane home. Mick said the father was ordered to have no contact with the children until the charges are resolved and he is living elsewhere.

Hopefully in a mangy bedsit.

This quote-- "Mind your own f-ing business!"--is the rally of abusers everywhere. See, they think they have a right to terrorize people who can't fight back.

It's not the first time Mr. Sexton has had problems:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/15819

I wonder if his fans Pat Curley and James Bennett of Screw Lucy will keep Troy posting privileges? I was banned a long time ago for demanding an apology from Pat and Jumbo for trtying to frame me over Killtwoofers--another debunker project gone awry. Surely they won't let a domestic abuser--because we all know this is not the first time for Troy--surely they won't let a man who threatens public safety continue to post in their comments?

But of course they will. They republish Killtown's material about people. They mocked the deaths of Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake. They have a friend who knows exactly who harassed Val McClatchey for years and haven't said boo. They've completely ignored the Killtown/Ozzytwat saga of stalking actor Mark Humphrey as the Harley Guy. And they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover the Kennebunkport Hoax. Pat and Jumbo couldn't be more transparent, hypocritical, evil slags if they tried. Even Nico Haupt will have nothing to do with some of the shite Pat and Jumbo trade in--and it's a sad state of affairs if one's standards are lower than Mr. Haupt's.

So of course Pat(or James) will manufacture an excuse to let Troy continue posting with the usuallal "we're not responsible for what people write here" bollox. They like working with liars, stalkers and abusers. Ample proof of it archived. And one day Mr. Curley and.Mr. Bennett will have to face the fact they aren't wonderful patriotic good people at all--instead they have enabled and encouraged abusers and stalkers and share responsibility for the damage those people have done. Use your brain, Pat--if Troy has no problem harassing adults, of course he's going to be a menace to people who can't fight back. What was Pat thinking, egging Troy on all these years?

This isn't the first time domestic abusers have been found connected to 911truth. One will be giving a presentation at the We Demand Transparency honeypot--er, "conference".

http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/305149

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/demand-transparency-from-we-demand.html

Yes--Troy's just the latest in a long line of easily avoidable or manufactured "troubles" in 911truth. And now we know he's a menace everywhere. Watch out for the people making excuses to keep Troy around...

Complements to Cosmos for dailymail link:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5746

UPDATE: More Troy coverage: http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=18545

Demand transparency from We Demand Transparency

2009-08-21T16:30:00.000-07:00

In my last ditch effort to save people from themselves--don't know why I bother--be very careful if you go.

It's a lovely idea--it really is--but too many dodgy names are involved.

http://www.wedemandtransparency.com/

The presenters page is already troublesome:

We do not need this person connected to 911 truth:

http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/305149

In real activist movements, such people are drummed out in disgrace. Even the Republican party understands this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig

This is aside from Mr. Barrett's connection to internet stalkers like Ozzybinoswald and Killtown through his friendship with Jim Fetzer.

Then there's the place this shindig is being held--under the eye of Rev Morales:

Who, in the summer of 2007, gave shelter to two people fleeing a cult--who then supposedly committed suicide while on his property. And if that wasn't dodgy enough, Morales' wife was somehow allowed to cover the story at Vanity fair:

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/01/suicides200801

No conflict of interest here. No siree. FYI--most churches can go for decades--or their entire existence--without questionable deaths on their property. St. Marks is also infamous for hosting Mr. Haupt's psychotic rants in the past.

And then we have the new "Killtown" as a "presenter":

Mr. Ranke earns this title by, not only using Killtown's lame "they attacked me first" excuses, but for dedicating a whole thread at his CIT forum to his "enemies" and encouraging others to help "expose" them. This is actually part of the definition of cyberstalking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his/her family in some way, or may post the victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.

Recently, thanks to the work of CIT watch, an attempt to whitewash the exact circumstances was caught:

http://citwatch.blogspot.com/2009/08/cit-whitewashes-enemies-list.html

However the evidence lives on:

Also, I've been informed CIT has been posting information supposedly about me that almost certainly proves CIT is working with Killtown(or his mates). The first time these things were published was a couple months ago by Ozzybinowald and Killtown at Pumpitout--in a subforum they have both been restricted to called "The Drama Club".

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/forum/457043/

The only way to read this section is to register and log in. Therefore for Ranke and Aldo, to be repeating the information, they must be in communication with Ozzytwat or "katherine". Because neither Ranke or Aldo are members of Pumpitout. As a rule, anyone repeating what was first published by Killtown and company, are working with Killtown and company. And we all know how accurate they are--they're the same people who insisted Mark Humphrey was the Harley Guy....

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/05/mark-humphrey-is-not-harley-guy.html

This will not be Ranke's first visit to NY for 911truth.

http://www.ny911truth.org/media/CU_slideshow/myalbum/

Ranke was on the Presenter's page until recently

But he is still part of the conference(red dots indicate questionable participants):

As is Sander Hicks, (bit about Hicks here http://911truthburnout.blogspot.com/2009/06/real-change-and-transparency-conference.html)

who will not only be speaking, but is apparently the contact person for memberships:

I'm sure you can trust him with your money-- and other personal and financial information.

Okay--reality check--in real activists movements one of these problems--domestic abuse, connections with cyber stalkers, deaths under dubious circumstances, needing to be forcibly evicted from coffee houses--would be a cause for concern. But to have a conference with people representing all of them? As presenters--not just participants? WTF?

It's too bad because I know there are some good people going, who I must assume simply do not know the history behind these folks. Alternately, they are either sheltered or told some fairy stories that minimize the actual events. People are trusting--it's our nature as social animals.

But in the interest of personal safety, people need to fight the urge by looking critically at things that don't add up. The Kennebunkport Hoax taught us this. So, if you go, play safe. And for the love of all that is holy, if you can, pay cash at the door, or in advance with money order.

More information at:

http://changeandtransparency.blogspot.com/

"We Demand Transparency"
Conference:

Saturday, September 12th, 10 AM - 7 PM
Sunday, September 13th, 2 PM - 10 PM
St. Marks Church-in-the-Bowery, Manhattan
E.10th St. and 2nd Ave NYC

UPDATE: Sander Hicks has supported the Republican Party in the past--to the tune of $5,000:

Also: this photo(Media Credit: Aaron Montoya)--

is from the Rocky Mountain Collegian where Hicks needed to be forcibly ejected from the Loveland Coffee Co. property .

Truth Actions on August 11--around the world

2009-08-21T13:32:00.000-07:00

For more visit Truth Action:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5717

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5711

The Truth About 911truth: Welcome to the Meat Grinder

2009-08-17T12:38:00.000-07:00

It was a bit of a surprise to find JREF interested:

I suppose understandable considering Bobert and Craig Ranke's history.

However Bobert--and others-- are mistaken in some of their equivocating. Mr. Ranke, presumably of his own volition, published CIT's website contact phone number, which it shares with the corporation Inspiriant Solutions. Being a corporation, it's information and activities, by definition, are the business of the public.

Ranke's behavior--sic using his CIT website to publish and encourage others to publish information indiscriminately about private and public people who disagree with his theories--and verges on criminal and liable behavior. His actions are definitely is part of the description of cyberstalking:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking

Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his/her family in some way, or may post the victim's name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.

(italics mine)

Mr. Ranke by using Inspiriant's phone number, has put Inspiriant at risk for future damages . There are two possible interpretations to these events--

either CIT is a front for Inspiriant Solutions and Ranke has their blessing and protection to "call out" his "enemies" using information obtained by stalkers;

Or,

Mr. Ranke had no permission whatsoever to use Inspirant Solutions phone number as CIT's contact phone and, by his actions, is putting a legitimate bushiness at risk.

This situation bears no resemblance to the one described here:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32724#32724

where, apparently, an activist was harassed at his work place for activities that were not criminal, nor liable and had no connection to his place of employment(though how the employer was found in this case is still unclear).

Do people really need to have a map drawn to see the difference? In one case public information is given so anyone targeted by this bollox can have legal recourse? The other one is a specious invitation for a stalking free for all? All I can figure is some people are working overtime to keep other people confused. It's the MO of those who doesn't want anything actually done about CIT's behavior--it's not like an alternative is being proposed.

This has happened before. Paula Gloria thought it was a clever idea to hassle an activist once:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/05/harassing-911-activists-example-2.html

I recall someone starting to whinge about the information in that blog. They said it was the same as what the "no planes" stalkers said--we found it in public so we can use it. And he was correct one must be careful not to confuse "found in public, but unknown to the person" and actual public information either published by that person or is the public's business(like any corporation). But there was no confusion--except for what he was trying to make. Paula Gloria, herself, published that information on her own website. Only thing I can figure, is that individual was concern trolling because it was his "job" to discourage anything that might actually work...

None of this is new. And here we come to the meat grinder.

There are some gross misconception about the state of 911truth and 911 activism, particularly on-line. Some people think it's like this:

Good lord no. Those people are actually organized and taking care of each other.

Most "leaders" want you to believe it looks like this:
Yes, that would be lovely. But it's actually this:

Blood and guts and gore. Confusion, random casualties, conflicting orders, little disciple or training, no leadership to speak of--and bad advice in abundance. This is the Meat Grinder--and if it does not concern you--or you think you are immune, you--and I say this because I care-- are a fool.

Lets look at a short history of the 911truth Movement and ancillary disruption.

Welcome to the AstroTurf-dome.

There's a surprisingly fair wikipedia article about the 911 truth movement, no doubt due to the work of many diligent activists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Truth_movement

Here's a relevant bit:

Communication

The internet plays a large role both in the communication between adherents and between local groups of the 9/11 Truth movement and in the dissemination of the views of the movement to the public at large.

The Internet--correct or not--is seen as the main news media of 911truth. And now you can see why some people get attacked and harassed online and others don't. The MSM has been sorted long ago--it's controlled. 19 Arabs did it--that's all you'll hear form them. But the Internet is a different kettle of fish. Since it can't be controlled, it has to be co opted. And it has to be done in a way that looks grass roots. Mix the message with complete shite--"The Jews", Space beams, the Holocaust- they kill two birds with one stone:

1: turn off the casual reader who might have gotten involved by deeply offending them, and

2: from those left who object the loudest you know which trouble makers to target

After all, they have so trustingly joined the main websites or yahoo groups and now know exactly where people are. Need to know more? Send a friendly face to engage them--IRL. Do this again and again until they have a data base of "trouble makers" to "deal with".

What? How the fook do you think they got the goods on people? Black magic? Most of the first and oldest "Truth" sites are little more than honeypots run by the naive and or incompetent. Many were spin offs of the election fraud "movement". I put that in quotes because as far as I can see, the "leaders" of the election fraud movement did bugger all to stop actual election fraud.

Are they all incompetent? And is it just chance many of them have been caught working with people now known to be disruptors?

Here's some shining moments in 911truth leadership:

Kyle Hence--just making shite up about him and hoping it'll stick:

http://wq2rx.blogspot.com/2007/10/banned-screaming-and-incoherent-kyle.html
(Sorry--no live link--I will not bleed rank for these people)

Ellen Mariani-whose husband helped plan the attacks--so some people say:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07162007/news/columnists/9_11_skeptics_lunatic_fringe_columnists_andrea_peyser.htm

Edna Cintron--tasteless digging into a victim's past:

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=218&topic_id=4684

Gary Welz--apparently was working with the 9/11 attackers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azURaXAe2mY

Val McClatchey--accused of faking her photo for profit:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm

Sandra Bradshaw--isn't real or didn't really die--according to some picking apart her photos and personal information:

forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=6172&st=15
(another place I will not bleed rank for)

An obvious--and admitted--cyberstalking operation to find "who's behind 911blogger, etc, etc:

911closeup.com/nico/911blogger_jones.html
(will not bleed rank)

And we all know Mark Humphrey was the Harley Guy(that is sarcasm):

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/05/mark-humphrey-is-not-harley-guy.html

What does this have to do with 911 leadership, you might ask? That's the bloody point. What the fuck were these "leaders" doing while a continuous and ongoing campaign to harass victims and activists was going on--for years- under their noses?

Here's a list of "leaders":

http://www.911blogger.com/node/20750

If these are leaders, god help us. Mr. Stahl is quite a fan of Killtown. I hear he was rather gun ho about Mark Humphrey being harassed as the Harley guy. Carol Brouillet will always hold a place of infamy for supporting anti semite Captain May. She followed that act up by endorsing Kevin Barrett--after he was arrested for domestic abuse. Jon Gold is one of the few people I respect on that list.

I can hear the whineing already--and shut it. Just shut it. If you useless wastes of space (you know who you are)who want to be called leaders can find the time the spread lies by Internet stalkers, interview Holocaust "investigators", endorse drunks and criminals for public office, then you can bloody well find the time to take notice of, stand up and speak out against the problems in your own ranks.

Don't say they didn't know. Thanks to the spam lists and a legion of astro turf yahoo groups
everyone --particularly the "leaders"--knew what was happening when it happened.

An example of a nice respectable yahoo group--blooming with astro truf:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED

Sound nice eh? All warm and fuzzy? In 2003 they sounded reasonable(from forwarded links):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/3452

Dear Hearts, I'm not an American, so I cannot assist these good people.
All I
can do is forward their appeal to as many people as possible, and hope
that
some of you will choose to take action. Thank You. From Gaele...

----- Original Message -----
From: Human Rights Action Center Alert List
<alerts@...>
To: <galmai@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: Take Action: Help Torture Survivors

So when did they pick up Ozzybinoswald?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/97700

Or why, in this post, is "Skinny" plugging Nico's material?:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/136907

nico's porn reviews ep.2: Webfairy in Bed with AQ Al-Qyeda
nico's porn reviews ep.2: Webfairy in Bed with AQ Al-Qyeda

nico's porn reviews ep.2: "Webfairy in Bed with AQ Al-Qyeda" nico's porn
reviews Pt.2 feat. TheWebfairy, AQ Al- nico's porn reviews ep.2: "Webfairy in
Bed with AQ Al-Qyeda"

nico's porn reviews Pt.2
feat. TheWebfairy, AQ Al-Qyeda,
PeggyCarter, Ryanary Economicx,
paulagloria and MNNdroppedtheballson911.

greetings from Warren Cuccurollo,
to be guest on PaulaGloria (Fri 05/02) ;

And you can't ask anyone anything--apparently the owners and mods are even hidden from the membership--a membership of 1,116.

Val McClatchey was mentioned in this 2004 post--before the harassment started(I think):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/23821

Killtown is still used as a credible reference:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED/message/164855

To be fair--technically it's not a 911 yahoo group--but most of the 911 yahoo groups spun off of similar groups. Maybe I'm reading more into this case--maybe they're so clueless and out of touch they just don't notice. If that's the case, then they are still a menace because others have noticed and are taking advantage of the network they provide. In short it's a bloody mess. And some people think it's a grand idea to welcome people into this shite without a warning or game plan? And the petitions--have a good read now--there seeded with loads of names that have since proven to be untrustworthy.

It didn't start out that way. Or did it? It looks like mostly not--from the rank and file perspective:

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2002/09/14/1486451.php?

Face it--most of us have been bamboozled by astro truf from the beginning. Sites acted--or were coopted to act-- like honeypots. Trends were analyized. Management of 911 truth online was enforced by a combination of friendly cajoling, information management and implied --and sometimes outright--threats. In normal activist movements, this is the point the lawyers would step in and lend a helping hand.

And where the fook have they been? Banding together to make this site apparently:

http://www.lawyersfor911truth.blogspot.com

And that's grand and all, using their legal acumen to advance 911 activism. But know what lawyers in real activist movements also do? They volunteer their services for either members or people who might be allies. Or at least not enemies.

You know, like Ellen Mariani. Maybe if she had a real lawyer--not a Larouche goon--she'd have been saved some time and money. Or--Val McClatchey--can't look too good having a supposed "truther" attacking a 911 witness for years.

This can't all be news to them. Have they volunteered to help any of these people? If so, I haven't heard it. But I have heard of some slimy lawyers whose job it is to advise harassers on what they can get away with...

What does this have to do with Craig Ranke and CIT?

Well, it's the same bollox, now innit? It's just the latest in a long line of harassment attempts against victims, witnesses and activists--except now some people have gotten cause and effect confused. Make no mistake--by publishing--and attempting to justify the Face to Name thread in the CIT response section:

z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showforum=9

and republishing other material about people obtained from internet stalkers--Craig Ranke takes himself out of the company of any kind of truther. Ranke shows himself to be the latest version of the wq2rx-style internet stalking campaign against any independent online truther who goes "off message".

And that's where we stand today. Ranke has no one to blame but himself.

No theory ever hurt anyone. Criticizing a theory never hurt anyone. Going after people--the parts of their lives they have not volunteered and in no way are connected to their activism--that hurts people. It's an intimidation tactic. Even when it doesn't work, it makes new people hesitant to join--especially is a blisteringly idiotic and incompetent leadership is just letting it happen with no comment. Or saying attempting to hold the parties responsible--legally--is bad...

"Oh I don't mind" many people say. Bully for them. They're the few and bloody minded with thick skins. But most people aren't. And why should they be? They shouldn't have to "not mind". The "leadership" should be setting a standard for accountability which does not include telling people to ignore it and it will go away. Or waving their virtual fingers. Stop it, right now. Yeh, that's going to work.

What works is force. Always has, always will. Confrontation, a clear explanation of what exactly is wrong, and a clear method and means of sorting it. Followed by the political and/or financial will to make it happen along with the appropriate cautions. If this makes you feel uncomfortable then maybe you want to take up making cookies or something. Because if we're hesitant to hold nasty people trying to intimidate us responsible in perfectly legal ways when we have the right to-- how the fuck do you expect to hold an ex administration of war criminals accountable for mass murder on 9/11?
The irony is--regarding CIT--of the people at Truthaction--I was one who tried to get along with Mr. Ranke. Specifically I repeated my attempt to "agree to disagree", in spite of his insistence to "debate":

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20000#20000

Remember his "reasons" for asking people to "expose" his "enemies", is that he has vital information that should not be suppressed. He can make a twisted argument for many people in that thread who've debated him, but there is none for Jenny. I never debated him about his evidence--one way or the other. I have said his behavior could be improved:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20000#20000

So his vital evidence is not the reason Craig is doing what he's doing. He's doing it because he's a stalker, not a truther. I wouldn't even be blogging about him anymore, if it wasn't because of the face-to-the-name thread and his unwise "retaliation". That is classic Fetzer/Webfairy/Killtown/wq2rx stalker behavior, and Ranke will not get away with it.

What Mr. Ranke is risking--(for himself and the company's whose phone number he's using as CIT's contact) by publishing people's information, with or without their consent, but in the context of "enemies" to be "exposed"-- being liable for:

Internet stalking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_stalking

and any actions inspired by Ranke's "hit list":

Sometimes a stalker may go on to hurt that person's body by assault

Identity theft and fraud:

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/websites/idtheft.html

(note the advice given that flies in the face of some 911 "leaders":
Be stingy about giving out your personal information to others)

And since a business entity is involved , the better business bureau may be a place to start if neither Mr. Ranke nor Inspiriant are responsive to complaints:

http://www.bbb.org/

This has nothing to do with 911 truth or CIT's theories--this is solely about using their forum as the latest harassment platform. I will cheerful stop blogging about them if the "Face to the Name" thread is removed along with anyone else person information CIT has no permission to publish. And CIT-- from this point forth --refrains from any further stalking behavior. Believe it or not, there are loads of things I'd rather be doing.

But I will not watch people attacked IRL and not give them the means to take care of themselves when I can.

_________________________________

There's been a parting of the ways between me and some people. I respect them, I care about them and--maybe contrary to things said in private out of frustration--I will let nothing bad happen to them. So Mr. Ranke --and others like him--should not make the mistake these people are not protected. But many of them are still under the spell that an ultra rational approach will win the day.

Look around you. That's obviously not true. Appealing to pure logic and reason only work in a reasonable environment. Debating evidence until you're blue in the face will not gain more ground--though admittedly it will prevent one from loosing ground. The problem isn't reason or facts. The problem is activist infrastructure, so to speak. Looking at activism just in terms of theories with no effective means for people to receive those theories is like arguing which auto has the best fuel efficiency while the roads and bridges are in disrepair: you may be right, but you're going nowhere with it. In activism people--and their good will--make up most of our "infrastructure".

Fucks sake, most people out there know something was dodgy about how the administration handled the September 11th attacks. They're not stupid--the MSM just makes it look that way. A war with no end in sight, and economy gone to hell Stateside and make no mistake that did start on Sept 11th 2001. Logic and reason by themselves never fixed anything. Political will is what makes changes--the political will of a focused non compromised leadership and the will of ordinary people once they see cause and effect and where the problem lies.

IMHO the leadership of the "911truth movement" was compromised from day one. I don't care what you call it--incompetence, malice, stupidity, naivety--but the direct result is a dwindling base and negligible political will. And because that is the dominant tone, anyone new brought into the meat grinder without an understanding of the risks, will be more cannon fodder--especially if they build an online presence. Not to warn people of this reality is--simplly put, irresponsible.

People are what count. No one was hurt by a theory--no, not even the no planes theories. It was the nastiness of the people pushing them at the time that was damaging. It was looking the other way while the nastiness was happening that was damaging. It was telling people "ignore them and they will go away" that was damaging. It was trying to manipulate people into being public that was damaging. People--people are what count. Take care of people or there will be no 911 truth movement. Jon Gold understood this--and he has been taking shite for it on all sides ever since.

There are many suggestions out their for 911 activism. But they mostly focus on what to say or talk about. Here's mine --that I'll elaborate on later:

1: Decide how involved you're ready to be--online, IRL, both.

2: Tell no one anything more than you're comfortable with. If they push--mark that as a flag.

3: When discussing with the public, lead with the best evidence. Be polite and civil when possible.

4: Leave out the bollox--the holocaust, the moon hoax, anything else that is a distraction and obviously nutty. Save your speculations for conversations with close friends

5:If you are targeted for harassment/slander because of your involvement in 911 truth--take notes and archive all evidence. DO NOT confront attackers on their a forum. Simply registering you give them more information. If the site is sympathetic to the harassers, avoid confronting even the webmaster until you have talked to a lawyer or other resources:

http://www.cyberbullying.us/
http://www.privacyrights.org/

6:Remember the survivors and witnesses are our best resource. Do not hesitate to protect them.

7: Don't start a fight, but if someone starts one--finish it.

PS--to a certain three wee lurkers working together--don't forget to work CRAZY into you're commentary. No matter it hasn't worked for 2 solid years--you might get lucky. ;-)

CIT: More Company Contacts--Inspiriant Solutions

2009-08-13T14:00:00.000-07:00

For more recent Ranke shenanigans:
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/ranke-self-promotion-via-melissa-data.html

Mr. Ranke's latest whine:

"We have exposed extremely important evidence and if people choose to attack us over it there is no reason they should no be identified and called out."

This is exactly the same as Killtown's reasoning--"They attacked me first because I'm on a holy crusade to hunt down the 'perps' and I can do whatever I want to 'defend myself'."

And if that wasn't bad enough, Aldo trumps up the figgiest of fig leaf excuses for what he got up to online:

Aldo told Bobert: "Think about your kid or family or whatever and grow the hell up."

Aldo's explanation: "Why would I say I screencaptured the innuendos of threats against Craig for the authorites if I was threatening or going to threaten his family???"

Dunno Aldo--maybe you were blowing smoke for the crowd? More tough talk for the groundlings? Killtown and co do this all the time--it's a bit of the wq2rx stalker MO--shout about how victimized they are while they attack people and hope no one calls their bluff.

Aldo misses the point. The point is not if Aldo's reasoning is sound--many people do things with unsound reasoning--see the whole saga of Ozzytwat and Killtown harassing Mark Humphrey:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/05/mark-humphrey-is-not-harley-guy.html

Unsound reasoning does not prove one is innocent of harassment.

The point is it was Aldo's responsibility to make sure what he said could never be construed as a threat to do harm. No one has any business implying--however vague or obliquily-- they will drag the friends or family of someone into a personal conclict. Aldo's proper course was not to make excuses, but to, without hesitation apologize for bringing Bobert's family up at all, then explain his intent, and affrim he(Aldo) will not do anything like that again. Mind, Bobert is not a choir boy, but he also did not bringing children into the conflict.

As Craig Ranke and company make excuses for rank behavior--(had to pick that one up)--he acts blissfully ignorant of the legally liable particulars of his situation. I'll quote weezula from a post at pumpitout who gave a good summary:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/single/?p=361150&t=1208566

(you need to be logged in)

Either way, here is a little law101 for those interested...

"In law, defamation (also called calumny, libel (for written words), slander (for spoken words), and vilification) is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always,a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

An action for invasion of privacy is actually comprised of four distinct torts (legal wrongs). These are: intrusion upon seclusion; appropriation of name or likeness; publicity given to private life; and publicity placing the person in a false light. To sue successfully for invasion of privacy, a plaintiff only has to prove one of the four torts, not all of the four torts.

Publicity Placing the Person in a False Light:
One who gives publicity to a matter concerning another that places the other before the public in a false light is subject to liability for invasion of privacy, if the false light in which the other was placed would be highly offensive to a reasonable person. Examples include a newspaper publishing an innocent person's picture as part of a story about convicted felons or including reporting that someone was involved in a domestic dispute when, in fact, there was no such dispute. Publicly placing a person in a false light also includes falsely stating someone's views, such as saying that someone is a member of the Ku Klux Klan.

Only the plaintiff holds the right to privacy. It is a personal right. Successful plaintiffs may recover damages for harm to their interest in privacy, mental/emotional distress, and special damages caused by the invasion of privacy."

Word to the wise....Craig & Neil are libel for their actions as is the blog/board/webpage that publishes their defamatory rubbish.

The "Craig" weezula refers to is not Craig Ranke, but both "Craigs"do seem to be working from the same play book. In Ranke's case, with his face-to-name thread, his reach may have exceeded his grasp. While much of the information has been published by the "targets", not all of it has, and for those bits he and Aldo can be held liable. As can any businesses associated with Craig or CIT.

Melissa Data is only one. Inspiriant Solutions Inc--who shares the contact phone number Ranke published for CIT--is another.

They seem to be a bit cagey these days. For people alleging to want business their website

http://www.inspiriant.com

is log in only:

However there is a profile, which shows another location in Arizona--note the same phone number:

http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/CompanyDetail.aspx?CompanyID=45255576&cs=QFCsouY08

Revenues: $2.5 Million

Employees: 9

Description
Inspiriant is a business consulting company dedicated to obtaining results for our customers by providing expertise centered around your business systems. In the past we gained valuable experience selling and implementing software. Now we put that experience to work for you by guiding you through any or all phases of a business system implementation. We do not sell software. We do not implement software. Instead, we can help you do any or all of the following: prepare your business for an implementation, select the correct software and service provider, negotiate with the software and consulting vendors, manage the implementation project for you, and help you get the most out of your software.

Again, odd for consulting company alleging to want business to have a log in only page at their website. Thomas Baker seems to be the lad to talk to:

http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Baker_Thomas_599595681.aspx

From cache of this link:

http://www.inspiriant.com/corporate/corporate.html

Richard Sellar and Thomas Baker co-founded Inspiriant in 2000 to help companies solve the business challenges that they face every day.
...
Thomas R. Baker, Vice President - Knowledge

Thomas Baker co-founded Inspiriant in 2000.Tom is currently the Vice President of Knowledge at Inspiriant.He oversees information, installation and delivery of solutions to our customers.

Tom's charter, as Vice President of Knowledge, is to ensure that "state-of-the-art solutions" and "most-appropriate solutions" are at the highest standard available.Tom is responsible for overseeing quality assurance and technical information support to customers.

Tom reports to the President and his duties include encouraging creativity in Inspiriant consultants when evaluating and implementing systems and solutions.He is also responsible for the technical training and advancement of Inspiriant's consultants.

Since 1994, Tom has served in various management positions.At Digiterra, formerly the Summit Group, he was the manager of consulting services.There Tom supervised and mentored consultants on JDEdwards applications and project management.

Tom is a Retired Captain from the Canadian Department of National Defense.During his service, Tom lead teams operational support tasks for radar system installations and upgrades, voice system installations, and creation of automated business processes.
...
Tom also earned his Professional Engineer License in 1997.

So call CIT's number--949-682-4060. That's 949-682-4060.

Ask for Richard Sellar or Thomas Baker. I'm sure they've no idea what Mr. Ranke has been up to whilst using the company phone as CIT's website contact number.

And observe how all the information was either published by, or approved by, and connected to CIT and 911 truth by Craig Ranke or Aldo; Inspiriant Solutions and their representatives approved the phone number and articles. None of it is invasion of privacy.

Inspiriant Solutions Inc

8001 Irvine Center Dr
Irvine, CA 92618

Phone: (949) 682-4060

Or

Inspiriant Solutions Inc

2375 E. Camelback Road 5Th Floor
Phoenix, Arizona 85016
United States

Website:	www.inspiriant.com
Phone:	(949) 682-4060
Fax:	(949) 682-4061

UPDATE: Inspiriant may have an Ohio office. It also appears that Richard Sellar is the president. The city listed in this directory screenshot--Rancho Santa Margarita, CA--is a source of much recent blog visitor traffic.

UPDATE: after a sleepless day and night, I hear Ranke has come up with a response--not a good response. In fact it makes his situation more obvious--more and more, he's showing himself to be no different from Killtown, Ozzybinoswald and their wq2rx stalker friends. It doesn't help one of the individuals who worked with him on his recent material was caught making these contradictory statements:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/cit-and-killtown-unholy-alliance.html

What they email back when someone cared enough to warn them:

Oct 06, 2007
Thanks -- yeah, I came across that earlier today. It's not just my name -- it's pix of me, probably from the rally last weekend. I remain unimpressed ;)

When asked if they knew who took the picture-

October 8, 2007 10:58 AM
This had to have been from the anti-war rally -- the only day I've worn earrings since DRG. *Not* a good picture of me!
(note:NO recollection--see vague recollection later)

At 911Blogger

10/22/2007 - 10:20pm
in my case, it was after I was out in public as a 9/11 activist that my image and name were used in a spate of nutso psy-op videos, complete with slander (that I am a paid disruptor) and a veiled threat against my family. (I was the emcee for the Portland 9/29 anti-war rally -- I wore a Truthaction tee shirt and made several statements about 9/11 truth from the stage. I really think someone doesn't like the idea of 9/11 truth working effectively with the anti-war movement.)

So, anyhoo, is that part of your plan? Get out in the streets then get threatened and then get harassed, but don't expect help from the rest of the 9/11 truth movement because it's a waste of their time to listen to your sob story?
Truthmove.org

I'd just like to say that thanks to this cartoon, I am now featured in a Nico Haupt video "mash-up." I think we're all accused of working for al Qaeda -and/or a "taskforce" (oh no! not a taskforce!)

I certainly agree that they are demented but I think they have a pretty limited audience. I think Nico would like us to be so offended or threatened that we would consider legal action, but I'm not.

at truthaction.org

Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:38 pm

Having recently been the target of freaky attempts to intimidate along with my friend by seeing our personal information posted online, I want nothing to do with this sort of tactic. The fact that I have been subjected to MORE of this crap because I am being lumped in with these Authority folks is just one reason.

At 911taboo

Mar 30 2008, 08:32 AM

Last fall, someone took my picture (and a god-awful one at that) at a Portland anti-war event and used it in one of those freaky YouTubimal videos. I have a vague recollection of someone taking it, but I can't remember who or whether it was someone I recognized.

Mar 30 2008, 08:59 AM

Yep, mashed. It was on several of those channels and featured "w2qrx" prominently -- as in, accusing me of being a Portland w2qrx agent. Whatever -- I was just irritated that the photo of me was so bad.

Or this individual was caught trying to frame me for stalking at 911taboo--whose members, even being no-planers, I have ten thousand times more respect for than I will ever have for CIT:

And how did Jennifer Wynhausen --(interviewed at 1:05)

--aka the 911stalker-- know Espada's moderator was screwing with Mr. 6199 at 911taboo?

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/911-stalker-update-its-not-nico-but-he.html

block me, that's fine. I thought you would like to
know that your friends are selling you out, making you look like the
stalker. that would be your new found friend genghis and your bff
casseia
(Note: the IP address this came from was the same both Killtown and Jennifer used at the time.)

Or that it was their intent to frame me for stalking? After all the shite Jennifer put Mr. 6199 through--that was beyond dead nasty. There is no other way to explain this behavior except that this individual works closely with Kunttown and associated stalkers, and sold truthers down the river for whatever reason.

Keep making a hash out of it. I'm sure Ranke knows what he's doing...though republishing Kunttown and Nico's "material" does make one wonder. I hear "katherine" might be wetting his pants in excitement. He seems to have an obsession with me--as well as some gross missconceptions:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1038184/1/

"AtlasShrugged, Angel, eyecintel, & Col Sparks "

Apparently, Killtown was dead certain I was Atlas, Angel, Eyecintel and other people--for reasons I will never understand. The thread--and others like them--are quite amusing.

UPDATE: The confusion continues....
http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/truth-about-911truth-welcome-to-meat.html

Company Visitor: Melissa Data

2009-08-08T22:46:00.000-07:00

Speaking of dodgy companies with liquid assets--

In the flotsam and jetsam of recent CIT/KOBEHQ drama, an intriguing visitor has returned to this blog many times from mail.melissadata.com looking for Craig Ranke.

Who is Melissa data?

Company Background
Melissa DATA Corp. was established in 1985 by Raymond Melissa in Orange County, Calif. The company began with a single product based on the practical idea to provide a database of postal ZIP Codes™ on floppy disks for use on a PC. Next was the development of USPS certified mailing software that can save mailers postage and printing costs and help them comply with all USPS regulations for discounted mailings.

Company Structure
Over the past 25 years, a team of programming and technical experts have developed more than 30 products and services, providing the greatest possible value in technology, reliability and cost-effectiveness. The company’s five progressive divisions provide their customers with data hygiene software, databases, developer tools, Web services, list enhancement services, mailing lists, and direct marketing agency services.

The company has developed an international reseller network, a nationally recognized catalog, and a dynamic website that averages over 70,000 unique visitors a day. Melissa DATA was named by DM Review Magazine as a Top 100 Company.

Company Headquarters
Melissa DATA has evolved into a nationally renown corporation with over 100 employees at home in a 30,000 square foot facility in Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif. Staff at this location includes programming, marketing, sales, technical support, research and development, quality assurance, manufacturing and distribution.

I suppose, to be fair, it may not be the company that's dodgy so much as some employees:

From:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/politics/911-truther-wackiness-now-most/

Hmm--didn't see that coming. Looks like Mr. Ranke has been a bad boy on company time. I mean, honestly--letting people repost Killtown's stalking material on his forum, or for that matter, dedicating an entire "hit list" thread--what was he thinking?

Fortunately, there's a cure--contact the employer. Raymond Melissa seems to be the lad to talk to:

Raymond F. Melissa

22382 Avenida Empresa
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
92688-2112
1-800-MELISSA
949-858-3000

Or the main office at:

Melissa DATA Corp
22382 Avenida Empresa
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688-2112

Phone: 949-858-3000
Fax: 949-589-5211
Toll Free: 1-800-Melissa
Hours of Operation: 6am-5pm, PST. Monday - Friday.

Anyone ever have a problem with a visitor or employee from Melissa Data--share you're concerns. I'm sure they'll be happy to help.

For more context go to this thread:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5687&start=15

UPDATE: for more information on CIT company contacts:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/cit-more-company-contacts-inspiriant.html

UPDATE: Melissa Data caught promoting CIT?

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/ranke-self-promotion-via-melissa-data.html

CIT and Killtown: an unholy alliance in snitch-jacketing?

2009-08-06T18:03:00.000-07:00

Interesting. CIT apparently works with Kunttown--or rather they're republishing something he made, so I can only assume.

Let's be clear about one thing:

this happened

AFTER Mr. Espada came up with this not-so-bright idea:

Espada's Not Bright Idea

Mr. Espada has been snitch-jacketing people for years. He's finally called on it and his fans start whining? It would be nice if Mr Espada could impress on his fans to please stop lying about the order of events.

Also, unless you can prove someone has published their own in formation in connection with their activism no one else has a legal right to publish it. Particularly an organization who has ample liquid assets. But hey, one less dodgy company will not go amiss. And information posted by stalkers only makes one look less credible than one already does.

And yes, Mr. Espada has published his own information in connection to ALL his activism voluminously and repeatedly over the years. Just Google his name.

_____________________________

Speaking of Mr. Espada's misguided fans and moderators--don't trust them.

For instance, one was spreading wee lies that I was stalking them. Whilst following every bloody post I made, everywhere. Thanks to some people's help, I have the raw records:

A small sample:

11th August 2008

20:23

911blogger.com/node/17033

8th August 2008

16:14

911blogger.com/node/17033

21st September 2008	17:37	truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&start=270&sid=926f241b429837113481a8cc3ff8fa6c
21st September 2008	17:38	truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=255
21st September 2008	17:38	truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270
23rd September 2008	07:39	truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1887&start=270&sid=84714be84c91fa9873a68a0e84df04a7

15th November 2008	11:29		truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3131&sid=3bd01b9954bd73a0768828d7d081a34f
17th November 2008	07:48		truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3131&sid=dc5bbab2f6965ca0cf11ec067c68987e

15th February 2009

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28th July 2009

18:00

www.911blogger.com/node/20458

Word to the wise--generally speaking, when claiming one is being "stalked" online by someone, best not to be caught following that person around like a puppy nonstop.

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An example of dubious credibility--

One of Mr. Espanda's fan's in particular seems to be confused about what exactly happened to them in 2007:

What they email back when someone cared enough to warn them:

Oct 06, 2007
Thanks -- yeah, I came across that earlier today. It's not just my name -- it's pix of me, probably from the rally last weekend. I remain unimpressed ;)

When asked if they knew who took the picture-

October 8, 2007 10:58 AM
This had to have been from the anti-war rally -- the only day I've worn earrings since DRG. *Not* a good picture of me!

At 911Blogger

10/22/2007 - 10:20pm

in my case, it was after I was out in public as a 9/11 activist that my image and name were used in a spate of nutso psy-op videos, complete with slander (that I am a paid disruptor) and a veiled threat against my family. (I was the emcee for the Portland 9/29 anti-war rally -- I wore a Truthaction tee shirt and made several statements about 9/11 truth from the stage. I really think someone doesn't like the idea of 9/11 truth working effectively with the anti-war movement.)

So, anyhoo, is that part of your plan? Get out in the streets then get threatened and then get harassed, but don't expect help from the rest of the 9/11 truth movement because it's a waste of their time to listen to your sob story?

Truthmove.org

I'd just like to say that thanks to this cartoon, I am now featured in a Nico Haupt video "mash-up." I think we're all accused of working for al Qaeda -and/or a "taskforce" (oh no! not a taskforce!)

I certainly agree that they are demented but I think they have a pretty limited audience. I think Nico would like us to be so offended or threatened that we would consider legal action, but I'm not.

at truthaction.org

Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:38 pm

Having recently been the target of freaky attempts to intimidate along with my friend by seeing our personal information posted online, I want nothing to do with this sort of tactic. The fact that I have been subjected to MORE of this crap because I am being lumped in with these Authority folks is just one reason.

At 911taboo

Mar 30 2008, 08:32 AM

Last fall, someone took my picture (and a god-awful one at that) at a Portland anti-war event and used it in one of those freaky YouTubimal videos. I have a vague recollection of someone taking it, but I can't remember who or whether it was someone I recognized.

Mar 30 2008, 08:59 AM

Yep, mashed. It was on several of those channels and featured "w2qrx" prominently -- as in, accusing me of being a Portland w2qrx agent. Whatever -- I was just irritated that the photo of me was so bad.

Yes, all these statements were made by the same person. Bit interesting months later their memory of who was photographing them seemed to improve slightly...or their selective amnesia about being "subjected to this crap".

The only one explanation for these "I'm not concerned--oh wait I am--but I'm not going to do anything about it" statements--they knew very well who was doing it, worked with them, and did not want them caught. In the real world, people who really believe they are being stalked tell the police--they do not play games with other people's concern.

It hard to keep track of all the lies... Now this person is too deep in and defending a man who's only explanation for screwing with people in 2003--something he does to this day--is to echo KOBEHQ accusation the Mr Devoy is CRAZY. How is Espada so sure--if he doesn't know anything about it? Wouldn't the more logical response be--"I have no idea what's going on there"? Instead of echoing the KOBEHQ party line? By people who post things like--

"Come on stevie--let your manic depressive state take over"

And how did Jennifer Wynhausen --(interviewed at 1:05)

--aka the 911stalker-- know Espada's moderator was screwing with Mr. 6199 at 911taboo?

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/04/911-stalker-update-its-not-nico-but-he.html

block me, that's fine. I thought you would like to
know that your friends are selling you out, making you look like the
stalker. that would be your new found friend genghis and your bff
casseia

(Note: the IP address this came from was the same both Killtown and Jennifer used at the time.)

Or that it was their intent to frame me for stalking? After all the shite Jennifer put Mr. 6199 through--that was beyond dead nasty. There is no other way to explain this behavior except that this individual works closely with Kunttown and associated stalkers, and sold truthers down the river for whatever reason.

It must be a Herculean effort of denial for this individual to convince themselves that--somehow--after being part and parcel of all this nastiness--they are still on the right side.

Unfortunately for them, everyone else can see otherwise--and has for some time. Dismissing the facts by claiming people are CRAZY won't work forever....

Was the CIA Involved in Infiltrating, Harassing, & Defaming Protesters in 2003?

2009-07-31T22:32:00.000-07:00

From a link I was forwarded, sadly I did not save the pdf. With a little searching on the right terms the content can be found in Google cache:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:cAOMtFEKpZ0J:nhindymedia.org/usermedia/application/12/cia.pdf+Gustavo+Espada+infiltrator+activist+groups&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Truthers and truth groups beware...

This is the html version of the file http://nhindymedia.org/usermedia/application/12/cia.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web.

Reasons to Believe that the CIA Was Involved in
Infiltrating, Harassing, & Defaming Protesters in
Harvard Square during the Summer and Fall of 2003

Two of the real activists in Harvard Square:
Stephen and Nick
Both were smeared by Murdoch publications, Stephen by Fox News and Nick by the
Boston Herald

During the Summer and Fall of 2003, an odd gathering of anti-Authoritarians appeared inHarvard Square. I was one of them. The protest which ran from July until November of 2003, each and every Saturday, came to be known as the “Occupation of Harvard Square.” As I write about possible CIA involvement in this event, I will be making heavy use of the qualifier “appear”, as the jury is still out on what some of the events that occurred during the occupation really were. As I was a participant in these events, this story is told primarily from my personal point of view. Other participants may have knowledge that I do not have (in fact, I suspect that some other participants have a great deal of knowledge about covert happenings surrounding the event that I am not privy to).

Before the occupation began, I came to Harvard Square in June to distribute anti-Bush
bumper stickers I had designed. This was my attempt to take my struggle from the
Internet onto the streets. My background is entirely different from what many people in Harvard Square must have thought it was. I am a computer scientist and I formerly
worked for a defense contractor that worked for the Information Awareness Office of
DARPA. My exposure of their activities resulted in the termination of my employment,
Before this happened, I met with many different government agencies at the offices of
my former employer including the CIA, the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) and even
attended two meetings with John Poindexter at the information warfare office of his
former employer in DC. While I may have looked like a homeless person hawking
stickers, I was a fairly well organized anti-Authoritarian intentionally waging meme
warfare on the establishment.

Around the time I started distributing my bumper stickers in Harvard Square, an
anonymous message was placed on Boston IndyMedia calling for a disorganized
gathering of anti-Authoritarians in Harvard Square on a specific Saturday in July.
Naturally, I decided to show up as I was distributing bumper stickers there anyway. A
person that joined us, Gustavo Espada (who will play an important role in this essay in later pages) told me that Nick had made the announcement.

This first anti-Authoritarian gathering was very successful from a propaganda
dissemination perspective and many of us that attended decided that we would make it a weekly event. We decided to call the weekly event “The Occupation of Harvard Square.” We put word out on an unreceptive Boston IndyMedia and the event grew until it settled at about a dozen or so semi-regulars attending each week. While this number seems small, the effect was large and many people began to come to Harvard Square specifically to see us and to gather our propaganda.

The core of this disorganized grouping, if such a grouping can have a core, consisted
primarily of myself, Nick and Gustavo. Shortly after the weekly event stabilized into a routine, a person identifying himself as KOBE SBM announced on Boston IMC that his organization had successfully infiltrated our activities. We did not believe him, at first. It is easy to make claims for psychological effect. Nevertheless, I always kept in mind that anyone of us just might be an infiltrator. As things turned out, I can now identify at least two infiltrators and I believe that there were probably more.

Having been the target of online harassment by KOBE SBM and his defamation website
for more than a year before the occupation of Harvard Square, I had gathered a lot of
information about KOBE SBM. First of all, his name begins with a “G”. He has
consistently used fake names beginning with a “G” and has claimed that his name is
similar to George but not George. He also claims to be from Puerto Rico. His English is outstanding for a non native speaker. He is well educated and he claims to be able to speak several different languages.

Gustavo Espada Pretending to be an Activist

Gustavo stood out from day one as very different from other protesters. He came the first day with a large American flag. He waved the flag challenging Harvard pedestrians to sign up for the war in Iraq. His was the only American flag to been seen. I welcomed this because it seemed pretty original.

By the end of the first day, Gustavo, originally from Puerto Rico, and I began to talk and he amazed me with his interests. Specifically, just like me he was interested in the colonization of Mars (a favorite subject of mine as I was raised on Apollo and wanted to be an astronaut as a child), meme warfare and disorganized resistance. The problem was that this is a very strange combination of interests. I doubt there is another activist on this planet that shares these same interests in combination. Moreover, I invented the concept of meme warfare, coined the term and also am well known for an essay I wrote on disorganized resistance before I ever met Gustavo. Gustavo offered me these shared interests before I even mentioned them and feigned shock that I shared the exact same interests. Despite my heavy involvement in these topics, he claimed to have never heared of me before. Knowing what I know about espionage and having been the target of a spy while working in Taiwan for the Taiwanese military, I know that such improbable combinations of interests when shared exactly with someone known through a random string of events is a strong sign that the other person is a professional spy. In fact, it struck me so strongly that it was the first thing I brought up with my family when I returned home that day.

On the next Saturday, Gustavo did something that I found highly suspicious. Right
wingers are particularly found of the flag and they often believe that leftists have a certain love for desecrating the flag. I, like many on the anti-authoritarian left, have no love for flags and consider them unimportant. I take no pleasure in destroying a flag and I feel no pain in seeing one destroyed. To me, they are just cloth. Consequently, I am suspicious of people who orient their activities around the flag, either to bolster and respect it or to destroy and desecrate it. For me, these are often two sides of the same coin, each puts importance on the flag and each can be used by either extreme for nationalist purposes. On this second Occupation of Harvard Square, Gustavo made a point out of distributing to us shards of an American flag he had torn up, ostensibly to use as arm bands or sweat bands. From a propaganda perspective I found this undesirable. I don’t look at myself as a patriot. I am anti-State and anti-nationalist. I am also aware that such use of the flag might needlessly offend people who feel strongly about it. I took this as a sign that Gustavo either wanted to demonstrate to us his lack of respect for the
flag (given that he had made the mistake of waving one so much the first week), portray us as disrespectful to the flag, or demonstrate just how leftist he was using a method that only a right winger would associate with the left.

At the end of this second meeting of the occupation, Gustavo asked me some personal
questions that I found completely out of line. He claimed to have become aware of the
harassment against me and told me, “You know, it’s OK if you take anti-depressants.
You do take them, don’t you? I used to, so you can tell me…” This seemed to be a
probe for information. I did not answer these questions. The impression I got was that someone wanted him to gather this information.

Another individual joined our protests early on. I had run into him once before, just
minutes after walking into Revolution Books. He popped in while I was talking with
George, the owner, and tried to strike up a friendship with me. He told me his name was Ed and that he was a primitivist anarchist. He joined us in Harvard Square, always stood next to me, to my right, and never talked with any of the other people at the weekly protest. In fact, I was surprised to find that I never managed to take a photo of him. This issue became important to me when I discovered that he was an undercover police officer from the Dedham Police Department and the web author of the Dedham Police Department website. I found a photo of him with his other police buddies online. His name is Ed St. George and he will play an important role later in this essay. Somehow, perhaps through skill, he avoided being photographed at the occupation.

Gustavo continued to be a man of contradictions. He often paraded up and down the
sidewalk with bible quotes. All of his bible quotes were pacifist in nature and he claimed to be a pacifist. Indeed, when a wandering lunatic attempted to strike a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party in the square, I and others in our group came to the aid of the RCP, but Gustavo refused on the grounds that he was a pacifist. Despite his pacifist declarations, Gustavo took great pleasure in presenting violent art and violent street theatre. For example, he stomped on a bloodied head of George Bush for an extended period of time in public view, inviting me to join him (I turned him down) and telling me that he just might get arrested by the Secret Service for doing it, but that he believed it would be worth it. I took this as provocation to arrest. He also photographed us extensively and videotaped us. Immediately after this stunt, the Lucy Parsons Center received some images in the mail that drew the interest of the Secret Service (before the Lucy Parsons Center told anyone about them). KOBE SBM took credit for this online. I
leave you to speculate about whether Gustavo was the author of this deed.

Around this time I put up a website called the “White Rose Journal.” It featured many
images from Harvard Square. Immediately, the harassers put up a spoof of the website,
using the same name, and copying images and text from my website. They added articles
in my name that I did not write and altered some of my own articles. I began watching
the access logs to that website carefully and found that the only daily visitor with from the domain UCIA.GOV. This is the unclassified network of the CIA.

A day’s typical visitors to my Stop Fascism! Website.

Gustavo informed us, early on, that his father worked at the US Embassy in Nicaragua. I did some research and found that he was US Consul General to Nicaragua. I also knew from previous research that this is a common official cover used by the CIA. When the CIA creates a cover, they use official covers and unofficial covers. Official covers are usually at US Embassies. The most common assignment is as Consul General.

Unofficial covers are also called “deep covers.” A deep cover is when someone is
assigned to an ordinary job without their employer knowing that they are CIA. Those
hiding behind official covers are highly vulnerable because they are easier to identify. Those working under deep covers usually go unnoticed. While foreign governments suspect that many in an embassy staff are actually undercover intelligence operatives, they will not expel them from the country unless they have proof or a substantial allegation is made. This is significant to this story for the following reasons. Let us suppose that I were to discover that Gustavo Espada was behind the fake White Rose Journal website. Let us suppose that I were to see the CIA listed in the logs at times just before new material was added to the spoofed website. If I made that public and tied Gustavo to his father, that might become grounds for expelling his father from Nicaragua. This would be undesirable to Gustavo and to the US Government. Therefore, if the CIA was not visiting my website, it would foolish of Gustavo or his associates to fake it by spoofing their IP address. If anything, they would either prevent me from knowing that the CIA was monitoring the website or they would just figure that I wouldn’t notice and it
would be drowned out in the noise of other visitors. Perhaps they did not know that
almost no one was visiting the website and that the CIA stood out like a sore thumb?
Maybe they didn’t think I’d monitor which pages the CIA read and correlate them with
updates to the spoofed website? Whatever the case, whoever was updating the spoofed
website was being recorded by my website’s logs as UCIA.GOV.

Additionally, consider the cost to the US Government of having the identity of a spy
revealed. It takes a great deal of effort to create a spy. If the cover is a deep cover, then it takes a lot of work to place the spy under the desired cover. Exposing such a spy would be a great waste of US Government resources. It also makes the job of reusing the spy. After all, once his or her picture is out there, installing the spy under a new deep cover becomes nearly impossible.
A great investment is lost.
I conclude that
COINTELPRO would not wish to spoof the address UCIA.GOV in my logs. Now,
someone else might wish to do so, but that someone would be someone that had nothing
to lose in doing so. Since the access times correlate with Espada’s website spoofing
efforts and Espada had something to lose, he would not intentionally spoof the
UCIA.GOV domain into my logs. If he war an incompetent spy, as I believe he is, he
would overlook the fact that I would be able to detect the correlation. This is what I believe happened and, therefore, this is also why I believe he really was accessing my website from the CIA’s domain.

Gustavo Espada is the perfect candidate for the CIA. He was raised on US Embassies
and, therefore, in the presence of the CIA. During his childhood, the CIA protected his family from various revolutionary groups in Latin America, even keeping them in safe houses from time to time (he has written about this). He has a very strong emotional reason to dislike revolutionaries. He speaks at least four languages fluently (all of the same languages KOBE SBM speaks). He is intelligent, quick on his feet and a good actor. All of this adds up to CIA material. Given the combination of characteristics, upbringing, and the hard evidence of his web activities, I believe it is reasonable to conclude that he is CIA, though I leave your own beliefs up to you.

Gustavo Espada, at least at the time of the occupation, worked for the Religious Studies Department at Harvard as a systems administrator (the same occupation as KOBE SBM). This would be an ideal position for a deep cover CIA agent. It would assist him in monitoring Islamic students and political activities in and around Harvard University.

Gustavo Espada had the help of his brothers as well. At least one actively brought him materials in Harvard Square, though he never bothered to introduce him to us. While we were in the square, Espada was frequently met by women he knew. These women would stop by, quietly exchange information with him, and then leave without ever being introduced to us. Their meetings seemed to be very formal, not casual. When he left, he almost never left alone. Cars were usually sent to pick him up and take him home.

During this period, an individual showed up on Boston IMC. His name is Veritas and he
is from Foxboro, MA. Veritas was hostile to our activities and attempted to smear us
both on Boston IMC and Portland IMC. After doing this, he wanted to meet me face to
face. I had no desire to meet him and turned him down, but he insisted on meeting me.
Gustavo chimed in, over and over, that he thought Veritas was for real and that I should meet with him. One day, upon arriving in Harvard Square, Gustavo introduced me to Veritas. Veritas was very pleasant to us and while there he held up an inane sign and left. Once back online, he continued to smear us with redoubled efforts. He also smeared the homeless people hanging around us. For reasons that will be obvious soon, I find this
ironic.

These three individuals showed up in Harvard Square as part of the harassment
program against the occupation. The individual to the right is Veritas, brother of Elise Hanson. Veritas was vouched for by Gustavo Espada (CIA).

I have strong reasons to believe that Veritas is a family member of another activist whom I know well. I met this other activist in El Salvador in 1994. In fact, I met her at the same time I met my wife. Her name is Elise Hanson. From 1994 until 1998, she and I maintained a friendship which sometimes bordered on the romantic. She insisted on keeping in contact with me wherever I went. We spent a great deal of time together, often alone. I was under the impression that she was a friend.

In 1998, I was over Elise’s house in Gloucester when she and her mother mentioned
someone named “Veritas” in a conversation. I asked who Veritas was and she explained
that he was her brother and that he lived in Foxboro. Given the age of Veritas in 1998, the Veritas that showed up in Harvard Square in 2003 is of the same age as the Veritas identified as Elise’s brother. Moreover, I have asked several people to look at photos to compare the faces of Veritas and Elise. They all believe that the two are brother and sister.

Elise Hanson of Food Not Bombs
Since when are anarchists “patriotic”?
Another inane sign?

Given the behavior of the Veritas that showed up in Harvard Square, this makes sense. Amongst the things he posted online was his assertion that I am “incapable of having a long term relationship with any woman” and “that I am disloyal.” Now, how would Veritas, I person I never met, come to hold such a strong belief about my personality unless he was connected to some woman that had been in my life? What would a 17 year old boy know about long term relationships with women and why would he care? All of this implies, strongly, some personal motivation on his behalf. More likely than not, he was acting on behalf of a woman that knows me. I believe that woman is Elise Hanson. Elise Hanson had conversations with me about my relationship with my wife before the birth of our child. My child is my own but I believe that Hanson is the source of libel posted by the harassers stating that my child is not my own.

The truth is that I liked Elise Hanson very much. I always enjoyed talking with her. I enjoyed her company. I considered her to be attractive. There was something there
between us. Our friendship lasted quite a few years. It ended when I left New England
and, at my wife’s urging, stopped communicating with Elise. My wife did not trust Elise. She had spoken with her by telephone and concluded that Elise was in love with me. My wife promised to not be happy unless I terminated my relationship with Elise. I decided that this was the best course to follow and I stayed with it. I can only assume that this angered Elise and that Veritas’ activities were an expression of her desire to harm me, my wife and my child.

Now, I introduce a third Veritas. In early 2002, while I was living in Austin, Texas,
shortly after I put up my Rational Anarchism website, I received an email from an
individual calling himself Veritas. He told me he was interested in “joining my
organization” and that he had two other high school students with him. I informed this Veritas, by email, that I had no organization and was not forming one. I suggested that if he liked the ideas I was publishing, he may wish to improve on them and publish his own website. He seemed highly offended by this and I did not hear from him again, at least not under the name Veritas. This was shortly before the online harassment targeting me began.

Since there are few individuals using the name Veritas, I believe that all three Veritas’s mentioned above are one and the same. The rest of this essay will be written with that assumption in mind.

If my assumption is true, Veritas began stalking me online in early 2002. He again
showed up online in 2003 and showed up in person in 2003. He became one of my most
vocal opponents on IndyMedia not using the KOBE moniker (which does not mean he is
not a member of KOBE).

With Veritas in mind, I went over many of the posts by KOBE members online and I
found an individual using the name KOBE OMEGA whom I believe to be Veritas. This
is my belief but it is not provable. In any case, KOBE OMEGA was involved in an
online back-and-forth posting sequence with an individual using the name “Chuck
Wagon” on Boston IMC. Chuck Wagon showed up to trash my photos of a protest in
March, 2003. He showed up immediately after I published photos of dozens of members
of the Boston Police Department Special Operations Unit. I later tracked Chuck Wagon
down. He turns out to be John Daley of the Boston Police Department Special
Operations Unit, something he himself admits.

As KOBE OMEGA, this individual smeared me online accusing me of kinds of bizarre
things ranging from child molestation to kiddy porn, all things I find detestable and have nothing to do with. Later, I took Veritas to task accusing him of being KOBE OMEGA and accusing him of communicating with the Boston Police. This conversation took place on Boston IMC. In this thread, KOBE SBM sent me a message telling me to “leave the kid alone” and asserting that “he reports to a higher authority.” That higher authority, I believe, is Gustavo Espada.

Gustavo Espada played an important role in trying to get me to meet Veritas. He claimed Veritas was for real and as I have indicated above, it appears that Espada works for the CIA.

Now, what does this mean? What does it mean to activists in Boston if Veritas, brother of Elise Hanson, is working with Gustavo Espada, allegedly a CIA agent? Moreover, what does it mean if this Veritas’ activities are motivated by Elise Hanson? (1)

This question is very important to me. All along, the police element of the harassment program has claimed that “anti-authoritarians” and “anarchists” have been involved in trashing my websites and taking down my writings. Frankly, I don’t believe real anarchists would do such a thing. The only conclusion I can reach is that if anarchists did it, they aren’t real anarchists. If you know these “anarchists,” I suggest you terminate your relationship with them immediately because they are working for the CIA (whether or not they know it). I could name several of these individuals right here, but unless I have more proof of their actual involvement rather than apparent involvement, I with refrain from doing so. If I did, you’d be shocked at their names. (2)

Earlier, I mentioned that Veritas made disrespectful remarks about the homeless while
posting to Boston IMC. I find this ironic because Elise Hanson is a member of Food Not Bombs, an anarchist group that feeds the homeless in Boston. Now, keep in mind,
Veritas never told me he was Elise’s brother nor has he ever attempted to explain himself to me. His assumption is that I don’t know who he is.

The above is enough about what appears to be the tip of an iceberg. Now, let’s take a
look in a different direction. As I mentioned above, Ed St.George, a Dedham undercover cop, infiltrated our group in Harvard Square. I’d like to take a moment to explain what his role was. I think it speaks volumes about what was going on in Harvard Square.

When I mentioned to Gustavo the possibility that a cop had infiltrated us, he responded “We’re not doing anything illegal, so who cares?” Of course, I care. I know that cops are interested in setting people up and that is exactly what Ed St. George tried to do.

Dedham Undercover Cop Ed St. George

On one occasion, some goons were sent in to stage a fight. Nick almost got caught up in this. Fortunately, I warned him to get out of the way before the cops came in. They took two of the goons away (no doubt, fellow policemen). While this was happening, Ed St. George pretended to be nervous. He told me that “he was carrying” and asked if he could stash his drugs in my bag so the police wouldn’t find them. Now, “my bag” held my political propaganda. There was no way in hell I would fall for that one, so I told him no. Ed St. George intended to get me arrested by planting drugs on me.

On another occasion, some kid was paid to throw fruit at us. Ed St. George immediately tried to provoke a fight with the fruit throwing kids. On other occasions, he claimed to be there to sell drugs.

At one point, Ed St. George offered me an electric pin with a flashing light to put on my jacket. I wonder why? Could it have had a non cosmetic purpose?(3) In any case, he was trying to get me arrested.

There are many other things that happened in Harvard Square. I can identify about six
other individuals whose visits were too coincidental to be ignored and others who
attempted to pretend to be someone other than they are. I may write about these
individuals later. What I hope this essay did is to open your eyes into how the US
Government is spying on and disrupting peaceful protest with an eye of criminalizing
dissent. I also suggest you think twice about who you consider to be your friends. Some people are not what they seem to be.

________________________________________________________

1 Worse yet, what of KOBE’s claims to have played a crucial role in provoking the FBI to arrest Sherman Austin?

2 If KOBE includes anarchists, as I believe it does, then this would provide an answer to the question of just how KOBE has been able to take down so many IndyMedia websites. I suggest you enumerate the websites they have been most successful at harassing, find the common software platform between them,
and then look for what anarchist was involved in developing that software. The answer to this question is unambiguous. It is an exercise I have undertaken and I have determined the identity of this individual. He is a member of an IndyMedia collective and he contacted me and established an online relationship just
before Veritas sent me his first email. I can connect him to the Baltimore FBI. I leave the rest to you. / A second anarchist, connected to this first anarchist, is a member of another IndyMedia collective. He runs another online publication, one which is similar to IndyMedia but, unlike IndyMedia, has never been attacked by KOBE.

3 This was not the only attempt to plant a bug on me. A certain individual already mentioned provided me
with a cigarette lighter with a listening device inside. I discovered it upon returning home, draining out the
gas, and sawing it in half.

Truth Actions on July 11--around the world

2009-07-13T16:12:00.000-07:00

For more visit Truth Action:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5589

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5587

C. I. T. goes to Washington

2009-07-10T16:53:00.000-07:00

Well, Arlington, Virginia actually

Deconstructing the 9/11 Pentagon Attack
With Citizen Investigation Team and Pilots for 9/11 Truth
Sponsored by The Wisdom Fund — TWF.org

I'm not a fan of CIT. It's a pity because they could be making a useful contribution. Instead their research is rife with shoddy work, sloppy errors and woe be unto anyone who points these out--they will be misquoted or, worse, snitchjacketed as a "cointelpro operative". They seem to spend much of their time stirring up unnecessary arguments--or even complaining if someone explicitly says lets just agree to disagree--with very some silly and entertaining results:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20000#20000

Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:

Yes--with a new independent investigation.
Now we agree to disagree.
Live and let live. Can you do that?

Craig Ranke CIT wrote:

You bet luv!
Enjoy your "big fence".
I have a feeling others here are interested in the
important evidence we have uncovered.

Peace!

Craig

Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4144

Craig Ranke CIT wrote:

atta girl!
That thread is a fence within a fence!
You are so safe!
Luv ya guv.
See ya 'round.
(if you venture outside that is)

Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4144

Craig Ranke CIT wrote: Col Sparks,

Back so soon?
Gosh!
I'm flattered.
Any comments on the OP?

Or how about the notion that we have 13 first-hand witness accounts independently corroborating the north side approach complete with a Pentagon police officer who saw the plane flying away immediately after the explosion?

How does that tickle your fancy?

Have you even viewed any of this evidence yet or are you choosing to remain in your big fence when it comes to evidence while venturing out only for irrelevant quips and off topic links?

Col. Jenny Sparks wrote:

You know it's gotta be a slow Friday night...

Pure farce. Now as much of a laugh as that was, that's how these people treat someone who plans to agree to disagree--they try to bait them into a fight. Someone who actually starts debating them in good faith, this is what happens:

A Response to Misleading Claims About the CIT Flyover Debate

It has come to my attention that several misleading arguments and claims have been made about my commentary on CIT. A witness at the Pentagon saw the light poles on the ground after the attack. Later in an interview, he gave the incorrect location of where they were placed. Completely ignoring this fact, it is alleged that:
“Arabesque deliberately omitted Lagasse’s explicit statement that he didn’t the see light poles hit.”
This statement is misleading as I have never claimed Lagasse saw the poles get hit.

For more CIT fun and games:

http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/search/label/CIT

Their problem in a nutshell:

The CIT researchers frequently and falsely interpret criticism of their theory as a personal attack along with accusations of government sponsored “neutralization”.

This is exactly the excuse used by Killtown to ban so many people from his forum it should be called Ghosttown--that critizing a theory is bad but attacking people as agents or "perps" for critizing a theory is okay.

Let's see some of this action by CIT fans at 911blogger:

"They put their lives on the line for the sake of truth."

Exactly.

Completely the opposite of the anonymous spook, "Arabesque."

Writes the anonymous user known as kameelyun.

This is out of line. Full stop. If you disagree with someone you're a spook? Give me a bloody break.

Newsflash for the adult children out there: no one's personal information is any of your business unless that person publishes it and the connections to activism themselves or you have a legal complaint against them. Then your course is through propper channels, not making wild accusations on public forums. They also seem to forget--or maybe never knew--many influential writers were anonymous in their time--examples being George Orwell and Mark Twain. Don't recall anyone whinging they "didn't use their real names". No, people did the intelligent thing and debated their ideas, not their criminal free personal life.

An aside: I also sincerely doubt CIT's lives are on the line. One peculiarity I've noticed in 911truth is the people the most free with all their personal information--something no Internet security expert recomends-- are almost never targeted for harrasment. Something to mull over.

A reponse to kameelyun:

"anonymous spook"

Why are you repeating this phrase on multiple threads? It's almost like you're attempting a smear job. Calling other users agents (or any other kind of ad hom attack) used to be against the rules on this site

Its true--he is repeating this:

http://911blogger.com/node/20571#comment-211383

Sorry, Victronix

but the anonymous spook "Arabesque" has NOT debunked the admirable work of two men who have taken an enormous amount of risk by putting their real names and faces to their investigation and activism.

Okay, I wasn't going to dredge up the Killtown/Ozzywat/wq2rx/Fetzer/Barrett internet stalker connections, but if Kameelyun is going to go on and on about risks Craig Ranke is braving, I'll take these risks seriously when I start to see Mr. Ranke the target of psycho porn psyop stalking videos spread by Larouche fans, past and present:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/05/attacks-on-truthmove-return-of-wq2rx.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/05/there-is-no-excuse-to-threaten-harass.html

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/02/lying-with-dogs-at-waterloo.html

If fact with some of these wankers, you don't even have to be part of 911 truth to be attacked:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/05/mark-humphrey-is-not-harley-guy.html

To be clear--in no way to I wish Mr. Ranke to be targetted for a stalking, harassment, slander campaign. But considering Arabesques has been target ted for harassment--by Larouche giant Webster Tarlpley no less:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2007/10/webster-tarpley-your-services-will-no.html

--it would be completely illogical for Arabesque to not continue to use a screen name. It's almost as if people are trying to manipulate 911 activists to put themselves unnecessarily at risk...

CIT and their fans do not sound like the best people to represent 911truth in any public venue.

One fan admits their approach is less than productive:

I stand by Sheila's and CIT's work.

Not only am I a rational researcher, I am someone who is regarded by people who know me in person as unusually smart.

Do the CIT boys perhaps have a 'tude and get angry with those who don't accept their findings? Probably so. I bet I would too. They're young. They'll mature. I used to have a juvenile attitude in my early truthing days 4 years ago, sometimes making comments online like "If you can't see WTC7 was a CD, you're a fuckin' idiot!" Then I learned that such an approach can only serve to alienate and so I toned it down and learned how to be civil, all the time.

They're young? Craig Ranke is almost 40 years old! When's he going to mature?---When he's 60 something? 70 something?

I'm not seeing CIT deconstructing anything--much less the Pentagon-- as a benefit for 911truth. The irony is I wouldn't mind hearing them out if I didn't have to wade through their dishonest arguments. I know outright no-planes advocates who give me less of a headache. I don't agree with them, but they don't witter away at me if I'm not bothering them. And because their arguments are honest, I can respect them.

Unfortunately, with their history of personal attacks and manipulative behavior, I can't say the same about Craig Ranke and CIT--or their event.

Go at your own risk.

EDIT: in a bizarre twist kameelyun is no longer anonymous--the link to his screen name now goes to this profile:

I can only guess this is an attempt to appear as if he has never posted anonymously. Unfortunately Google cache knows otherwise:

Truthaction Ottawa interviews Cosmos of truthaction.org

2009-06-28T13:59:00.000-07:00

Listen to interview at their site:

http://truthactionottawa.com/main/?page_id=677

More about Truth Action Ottawa:

Benefit for truthaction.org

2009-06-18T18:43:00.000-07:00

For more info:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5497

Truth Actions on June 11--around the world

2009-06-12T15:00:00.000-07:00

Ottawa:

San Francisco:
Copenhagen:

Stockholm, Sweden:

Jersey City, New Jersey:

North Texas:

Sydney, Australia:

For more updates visit Truth Action:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5468

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5461

Putting 9/11 Truth First

2009-05-28T18:53:00.000-07:00

Not Ron Paul, not UFO'S, not Space beams, not Alien shapeshifting lizards, not Alex bloody Jones---

Spot on.

See thread at Truth Action for more:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5412

Mark Humphrey is not the Harley Guy

2009-05-20T11:34:00.000-07:00

When evil stalks upon the land
I'll nyther hold nor stay me' hand
But fight to win a better day
Over the hills and far away..

February of this year a video was posted to Youtube by Weezula titled:

Mark Humphrey is NOT the Harley Guy

Reads like bit of a Buddhist koan--who the hell was saying Mark Humphrey was?

In the comments are clues. Fact you don't need to look much farther than the first comment:

OzzybanOswald

Those voices sound very, very similar to me. It sounds and looks exactly like the same guy. I guess Rick was standing elevated, as if on a curb. When did you actually tape this Mark? Was it before the day of the real action?

Why don't you launch an investigation? This really should be publicized.

Should have guessed. One of the usual suspects from Killtown's wq2tx stalkers, Ozzybinoswald. Close associate of anti-semite Captain May, in turn supported by Tarpley and Fezter during the Kennebunkport "Warning". Maker of wq2rx videos targeting 911 activists, and possibly much worse:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/02/lying-with-dogs-at-waterloo.html

Observe how he accuses the maker of the video of being Mark Humphrey. But chronic misidentification--something these wankers are know for-- is only the beginning. Other threats followed, many posted at Killtown's forum 911movement.org. Fred made some involving acid. The the thread only exists in Google cache now:

I wonder why Invisions keeps censoring threads that clearly demonstrate that the notorious CANADIAN ACTOR MARK HUMPHREY IS THE INFAMOUS HARLEY SHIRT FAKE WITNESS who allegedly participated in the murder of thousands of innocent people on September 11, 2001? Are Invisions management a bunch of spineless cowards or do they have some reason to want to aid and abet terrorist murderers? The actor is a public person and these photos demonstrating his alleged participation in the 9-11 attacks are legally protected FAIR USE media criticism.

I think that it's high time for Canadian police or the international community to capture Mark Humphrey and put him on trial. I would personally like to see him tried before a tribunal and properly interrogated. I believe Mark Humphrey should be treated like any other high-value terrorist suspect.

If the censorship of this important topic continues, perhaps it is time to increase the pressure on Mark Humphrey to turn himself in. It is my opinion that a terrorist murderer would be well advised to face justice in the courts rather than "street justice". Just one over-zealous teenager with a spray bottle full of battery acid could blind Mark Humphrey for life, and nobody wants to see an ugly incident like Mark Humphrey being burned alive or dragged through the streets with waist and legs chained to a pickup truck. Justice delayed is justice denied, and a proper trial for a suspected terrorist like Mark Adrian Humphrey is the preferred approach.

Either way if he's found guilty, it's probably off to prison or the execution chamber for Mark Humphrey.

This is of course ridiculous and inexcusable and some might be tempted to ignore the whole mater because it's on a no planer board.

But the fact is if someone is being attacked like this in 911truth, in the name of 911truth, it affects ALL of 911truth. If leadership doesn't take a stand, how will he know this is not "business ad usual" in 911truth? It would be perfectly reasonable for Mark Humphrey to right off the entire truth movement as a bunch of crazed nutters no matter what anyone else says later:

Oh, yeah--I know those truthers. They accused me of being this Harley Guy person and made death threats.

It's not like this hasn't happened before. Previous victims of harassment campaigns that made us look bad are Val McClatchey--brought to you almost entirely by Killtown.

Ellen Mariani--who ironically supports 911truth, but that didn't matter when MSM picked up and ran with the attacks by Nico, Rick Seigel and Mr. Thomas Potter.

And of course the whole Kennebunkport/wq2rx bollox:

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/05/attacks-on-truthmove-return-of-wq2rx.html

It is only by luck and the determination of some good people online this hasn't gone anywhere. It is very telling of Screw Lucy's intentions they haven't said boo... They don't care about people--never had, never will. All they care about is slandering 911truth--something in common with Ozzybinoswald...

Mr. Humphrey appears to have tried to ignore the attacks but, two months later, when they didn't stop, he decided to register at 911movement.org to clear the air. And was suspended almost immediately:

http://forum.911movement. org/index.php?showtopic=6566&hl=

act1:

Mark Humphrey here..I'm not the "Harley Guy"...Your barking up the wrong tree Ozzy...there has got to be a way for you to truly identify the the real guy..I'm not him..you don't have it right yet...It looks like the other guy has blue eyes..M

Killtown:

act1, since you are claiming to be the actor Mark Humphrey, you'll have to prove it because we have a rule against imposture accounts. So in the meantime, I'm changing your account status to 'suspended' which means you can only post in the Suspension section and ONLY post about the reason you are suspended until you can prove you are not an imposture. The reason for this is to protect the real person.

Killtown:

"Act1", why didn't you use this email to register that's posted at the bottom of "your" website?

http://www.markhumphrey.com/

Why use a hotmail addy where anyone can make one up?

Well, now if one follows the link to Mark's site, they'll see this:

Act 1 - Not The Harley Guy

Expect no apology from Ozzybinoswald or 911movement.org.

As it is Mark Humphrey is able to see the attacks came from a few lone wankers no one takes seriously anymore in 911truth, and for that I thank him.

I've said it before--we do not take care of people in the movement, there will be no movement.

There is no excuse to threaten and harass witnesses and activists.

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2008/05/there-is-no-excuse-to-threaten-harass.html

Doesn't matter where it happens--it will affect us all, and not for the best.

To everyone who got this man's back--wherever you are in 911 truth, thank you. We may not be able to share the same forums, but we can agree attacking people like this in the cause of "truth" is despicable.

And this blog --Ozzy's last ditch effort--needs flagging:

911-harley-shirt-guy.blogspot.com

Cheers.

Also at Truth Action

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=29779

Editorial Note:

One of Killtown's people has actually apologized for this embarrassing faux pas on Pumpitout.com. I can't directly link to the post-- I have them on ignore and can't see it--but I can link to someone quoting them:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/single/?p=364861&t=1670129

Note this individual is a minor. While his apology is a good gesture, it is the adults influencing him--Killtown and Ozzybinoswald--who are ultimately responsible.

Lying with dogs at Waterloo

2009-02-10T14:40:00.000-08:00

Most people know the phrase "If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas." But few of the people lying with dogs think about the consequences. Instead they make excuses.

"Nico has good information."
"I've never met Jennifer W in my life!"
"I've been really sick and haven't had a chance to follow all this."

I'll summarize the situation for those who honestly aren't caught up:

Activism in 911truth has been harried by a group of people who all claim to be different parties but share the same goal: to derail and disrupt any honest research or outreach. They do this by muddling the waters, spreading lies, dishonest arguments, infiltrating events with wooly thinking rubbish(shape shifting reptiles, etc), and when all that fails, they stalk and harass people who have been the most effective at disrupting and exposing these tactics.

The most outrageous example of this stalking came after Webster Tarpley's Kennebunkport Warning was used as an excuse to viciously attack Cindy Sheehan and her colleagues. Literally dozens of psycho videos under the tags of wq2rx attacked 911activists claiming to expose them as Al qaida terrorists. The making of these videos has been traced to Killtown's associates Webfairy, Spiney, Fred and Ozzy bin Oswald. In the case of the last three, the videos often include a healthy dose of pornographic imagery.

In the case of Ozzy bin Oswald--creator and propagator of the most vicious attack videos-- among the videos he claims credit for and which have been propagated by these parties has been found to contain sexualized images of children, one of which can only be described as child pornography.

I won't give a live link or specify the stills in question; you can investigate yourself:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/B69402CE6F4B450C8F5B256D397D8156/tackycore-lisa17g-affrontivist.aspx

There was a copy at Youtube, under the cow4grass channel, but its been removed for violating TOS. I don't know why the copy at Livevideo is still up, but we can do something about that:

http://www.livevideo.com/info/contact.aspx

I truly hope it is no worse than Ozzy Bin Oswald swiping old illegal images from the Internet, but God only knows.

First lets be clear: Ozzy bin Oswald is not part of 911 truth. Like Killtown he is a stalker who pretends to be a truther. Let's look at Ozzy's supporters:

Webster Tarpley:

arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/09/kennebunkport-warning-controversy.html

he was expected to be the direct beneficiary of the wq2rx attack videos. His public attacks against prominent truthers failing at the 6th anniversary, videos like these were propagated everywhere:

joecraine.magnify.net/video/WEBSTER-TARPLEY-DENOUNCES-ARA-2

apparently from another source. This is called an asymmetrical attack. But the connections are not hard to make if you have Tarpley, Fetzer and May shrieking in chorus on radio to hunt people down.

Mr. Tarpley, if you lie down with dogs, expect to get up with fleas.

Captain May:

arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/who-is-captain-may.html

May is the wanker obsessed with numerology and "The Jews" who worked with Tarpley and Fetzer to prop up the Kenebunkport Hoax. Ozzy is part of his Ghosttroop:

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/35388
http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/21972

May also runs the group Portland Nuclear Inquest where Ozzy's work has been promoted by Amy Sasser and Patti Woodward:

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/Portland-Nuclear-Inquest/message/1149

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas

Nico Haupt, Webfairy and Paula Gloria: nothing more needs to be said.

If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas.

Killtown: Ozzy bin Oswald is very close to Killtown. He's a member of the forum 911movement.org. He defends Killtown without question. According to some is is more dangerous than Killtown because he does the nasty heavy lifting for Killtown when his manipulations fail. Killtown must know how bad Ozzy's material is, but he never challenges him and helps him propagate his videos indiscriminately. Killtown is certain to both know Ozzy's real life ID and protects him.

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

Pat Curley of Screw Loose Change: you read that right. Pat has propagated the wq2rx videos in the past. Keep in mind this is the man who builds his reputation on knowing all the dirt on the "twoofers". Recently, after Jon Gold debated him in good faith, Pat's closing arguments were to smear Gold by equating Gold's position with Killtown's. The irony is Pat Curley probably knows who Killtown is because a good debunker friend of his is good friends with Killtown's girlfriend. And this was true all during the time Ozzy's wq2rx videos were being spread by many parties including Screw Loose Change. To heighten Pat hypocrisy he was sniffing around Truth Action chat fishing for information on Dog4tree. Which he probably already knew. Rosalee Grable admitted it herself at Killtown's forum: Webfairy is Dog4tree.

Why didn't Pat notice the sexualized pictures of children in the wq2rx material? Especially before posting any of the videos connected to these people at his blog? He should have known better. He's staked his reputation on it. Its bad enough to be caught helping Killtown stalk people, but mirroring work connected to a man who includes sexualized pictures of children in his hit pieces--

At the very least this shows Pat is a fraud when it comes to research. At the most, I wouldn't want to guess. If he did know, he continued to help propagate their shite anyway. What does that say? Pat has a history of lying down with dogs; these fleas are never going away.

New addition: Craig Ranke and active participants of CIT, who have adopted many "wq2rx" tactics.

http://coljennysparks.blogspot.com/2009/08/cit-and-killtown-unholy-alliance.html

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

Following Ozzy bin Oswald's supporters are the people who tried to distract from the seriousness of the situation, allowing it to grow more than it ever would:

If these quotes are yours:

"Ignore it, it'll go away"
"They just want attention"
"I'm just trying to help Captain May (fill in the blank)"

You all share responsibility for this. And you're all idiots. This could be part of a long term plan for all we know. While you lot foolishly promoted--or told us to ignore-- this bollox, it could have been picked up and used to smear some action that was working. And the very least going on record to denounce this shite would scuttle that. Time to decide which side you're on and start acting like it.

For those who passed information on to people know to be connected to Webster Tarpley, James Fetzer, Captain May, and the stalking crew, you share responsibility for the motivations of the sick sod Ozzy bin Oswald to make and propagate these videos in the first place.

One individual has admitted to passing information about truthers to Fetzer through Kevin Barrett. Information used in Ozzy bin Oswalds videos. Some of which include sexualized images of children.

Do you all see how this is going to work from now on?

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

In the real world good and evil are not black and white. But there are lines. Reproducing child abuse and exploitation is one of those lines. Whatever we believe happened on 911, human decency comes before any debate or issues. It comes before "planes" and "no planes". By encouraging and promoting the worst in human nature, the stalkers --fake "truthers" and "debunkers" alike --have attracted and encouraged the worst people--and possibly caused real damage in the real world. They all share responsibility.

"Debunkers", "fake no planes stalkers", ZIHOPPERS--it makes no difference what they say about anything or anybody now. Any PR cred they had is squandered. Any good information they have can be found by more reputable sources. They will always be the people who spread the works , rumors and material made by stalkers, some of whom used child pornography in their works. There is nothing they can ever say or do. The damage has been done. By their own claims of superior research, they should have known better.

This is their Waterloo.
They --and anyone who supports them--are dead to us.
Tell them good bye.

To file a report go to these sites:

www.fbi.gov/innocent.htm

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PublicHomeServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US

www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/childporn.html

CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES ASAP!!!

2009-02-04T19:17:00.000-08:00

Reposted from 911 Visability.com

http://visibility911.com/jongold/?p=922

CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES ASAP!!! HELP 9/11 FIRST RESPONDERS GET THE HELP THEY NEED!!!

Reps. Maloney, Nadler, King, and McMahon will likely be reintroducing the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act tomorrow afternoon. The below is a letter that was circulated by Rep. Maloney in the hopes of getting other members of the House to co-sponsor this bill.

Please, make the time to call your representative, and tell them that you support this bill. Thank you.

You can find your Representative here.

President Obama said that he backs this bill. He should be on the phone tonight calling all of the Representatives to get this passed.
February 3, 2009
Remember the Heroes of 9/11
Be an original cosponsor of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act
**Deadline at noon tomorrow**
Dear Colleague:

As we begin the 111th Congress, we invite you to become an original cosponsor of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act. This legislation would provide medical care and compensation for those who are sick with World Trade Center illnesses, including first responders who came to New York from every state and nearly all Congressional districts in the nation.

The 9/11 Health and Compensation Act would:

Establish a federal health and compensation program for 9/11 responders and community members,
Provide ongoing medical care for 9/11 health conditions to approximately 15,000 additional WTC responders and 15,000 additional WTC community members, for a total of 55,000 responders and 17,500 community members.
Require a matching contribution from the City of New York for the health program,
Reopen the Victim Compensation Fund (VCF) to provide compensation for those sickened by 9/11 exposure and to address the over 10,000 pending lawsuits brought by sick 9/11 responders, and
Limit the liability in litigation for New York City and the contractors to the amounts available under the Captive Insurance Fund and their existing liability limits and insurance.

With a new Congress and a new administration, we must not forget the heroes of 9/11. To become an original cosponsor of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act in the 111th Congress, please contact Anna Cielinski (Maloney) at 5-7944, Jillian Youngblood (Nadler) at 5-5635, Alexandra Valenti (P. King) at 5-7896, or Kathryn DiBitetto (McMahon) at 5-3371. The deadline is tomorrow, February 4, at noon.
Sincerely,

CAROLYN B. MALONEY
Member of Congress

JERROLD NADLER
Member of Congress

PETER T. KING
Member of Congress

MICHAEL E. McMAHON
Member of Congress

Anna Cielinski
Legislative Assistant
Office of Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (NY-14)
2332 Rayburn House Office Building
202-225-7944 (phone)
202-225-7944 (fax)
anna.cielinski@mail.house.gov

Deadline may be past, but no reason not to continue rattling cages...

Heroes: Evolution through Disruption

2009-01-30T15:17:00.000-08:00

Continued from Part 1

Evolution

“Evolution is an imperfect and often violent process. A battle between what exists and what is yet to be born. In the midst of these birth pains, morality loses its meaning. The question of good and evil reduced to one simple choice: survive or perish.”~ Mohinder

While I like the “Heroes” character, Mohinder’s overwrought narration can be as painful as his naivety. Evolution is very simple: adaptations to change. The more change, the more adaptations. The more extreme the change, the lesser chance of survival in the pool, but for those who do survive, they will be extremely vigorous and resilient.

This is the silver lining of disruption. Its a predictable result but, nonetheless, unexpected by those who sowed it: by the very action of deliberate disruption a new species of activist emerges, with new powers, adapted to the harsh environment. They will not be easily removed. The forces that created them, guarantee they will be immune to more of the same. This new breed will see through the manipulations, be able to predict new forces and extrapolate how to further adapt.

The unintended consequence of deliberate disruption in 911 activism was a type of natural selection that has produced a hardier species of activist.

This is evolution in politics. Individuals are adapting, and continuing to adapt to, disruption, by rejecting failed leadership, daring to make alliances, renewing focus and vision, consolidating resources. Responsibility is a new meme. Carelessness is not tolerated. Questions are asked. Accountability is demanded. The people doing this are the ones who walked through the fire, the ones “they” failed to break. These people are either working together or agreeing to disagree and do no more harm.

We have evolved and the old order has no answer. It is not to say they aren’t still “at it” playing their little games. But the more aware we are of their purpose and our own powers, the less effective they will be.

Mind, we shouldn’t get careless. It is possible they will also adapt, evolve. The villains could rise to the challenge of new heroes. But it would take a new leadership, with a new vision to adapt in time.

What is the point?

Why do they do what they do? This is a lot of effort, screwing with lives. This is the thing to understand about the disruptors: they are inherently anti-evolutionary. My personal speculation, after discussing the issue with friends and giving it a good think, is the goal of all this disruption, chaos, attacks, etc, is stunningly banal:

The master plan is to maintain the status quo.

A bit of a let down as far as villainous plans go, but bear with me. My thinking started along these lines:

Most of us got into this to change the world. To help people. Because we thought something awful happened that revealed a horrible truth about how the world works. We also extrapolated what might happen if these dangerous crazy people got more greedy. If they’re capable of this, of deliberately murdering 3000 people just to have an excuse to get rich off more fake wars, God knows what else they’re capable of. And with the threat of an Iran war looming, it felt imperative to become involved. Do something. Or at the very least, plan a way out.

Now, if we assume the people disrupting, attacking, stalking, harassing activists are operating from the same set of knowledge, WTF are they doing? Do they want to live in a world of perpetual war, with torture and all the trappings of the “NWO”? (Most of them allege to believe these things) Logically speaking, if they are working against organized activism, or trying to drive people away from 911 truth, aren’t they willingly working to bring about the world they claim to fear? What makes them think they’ll be immune to the police state that follows? And isn’t it, from a “smarts” stand point, one hell of a risk to take? Once the bad guys have won,(again if they really believe this), who's to say they’ll honor any promises made to the pawns who helped get them there? Make a fuss and its off to the gulag with you-throw away the key!

That would be insane—if that’s what these people thought. But it is far more likely they believe they are working for the greater good by maintaining the status quo.

This is analyzing motives, not objective realities. And this is the best motive I can come up with to explain the majority of witting accomplices assuming they are not sociopaths or clinically insane. I wouldn't assume all the actors think this, but it is probably the excuse “middle management” uses. These would be educated professionals who understand enough of how the world works to know its bad, but have given up on real solutions. Maybe they just want to keep things safe for their families for as long as possible. And if that means protecting a system that makes most of the world miserable, so be it.

They will claim to be liberals or radicals, but they are actually conservatives of the most trite type: they are terrified of change. And terrified of people who want change. They are terrified of anyone or anything that makes them feel out of control. If it wasn’t for all the people they hurt, you could feel sorry for them—so scared of a better world they’ll defend a crap world. But there you go. The reason for the disruption and attacks is ultimately cowardice and lack of imagination.

Maintain the status quo—at all costs. That’s their goal. But its getting harder every day. We have been on the edge of world peace for decades. There are plenty of resources, knowledge and will to change. Countries like Sweden modernized(politically) almost overnight at the turn of the last century. It is only because of greed motivated intelligence operations around the globe that we have a “third world”. Now that the citizens literally have the knowledge and power to throw the warmongers out of business if they were effectively organized, these operations have come home for one last desperate spin.

Meet the Villains

“I know you don't understand me, but I want to tell you why I'm helping you. It's that delicious power. You see, when I get my abilities back, I'm gonna kill you... and your sister. And I'm gonna take it all. And if I don't get my ability back, it's not a total loss. Maya's learning quickly. She's a shiny new toy, and she's all mine..” ~Sylar

The witting can’t do it on their own. For many reasons, legal liability being high on the list, they have to convince, dupe, and otherwise get people to do the dirty and dirtier work. But who would willing do these things—for free?

“Free” could be an oversimplification. There’s probably a middle ground between volunteers and people on the payroll, people compensated but not in cash. Possible business services, tax preparation, scholarships, tuition, rent, credit cards, employment, the odd favor and occasionally cash.

Some of these can be used on the unwitting—a way to secure loyalty playing on human nature. Looking at the list and knowing the sub-cultures in activism of all kinds, one can guess how people get to be used:

The radical activist is not known for independent wealth. Generally speaking any younger person from the working class could always use a bit of extra cash and the odd free pint wouldn’t be amiss either. This loyalty comes cheap to middle management who values neither the cash, nor the loyalty. Manipulation afterwords is easy, though a wise manager won’t push for anything out of character.

Then there’s the middle class college student or graduate who has stars in their eyes about saving the world. They are useful for other things, particularly managing the more educated and sophisticated members. The more degrees in bullshit they have the better.

From this pool cream will rise to the top, and it will be skimmed . Cream can’t be controlled. They want loyalty and control, two virtues no among of talent or sincerity or skill set can replace. Remember, the manager is not here to save the world or improve it. They need people to help them maintain the status quo.

Now character comes into play. It is tempting to think all the people fucking with people’s lives and heads are sociopaths, but the numbers don’t support it. We can assume a higher number than the average 1 in 25 due to the nature of the “work” but most of the people who agree to became “villains” do so for other reasons:

Narcissism: there is a type of person who is not an emotional adult. Calling them adult children is insulting to children. No matter what they claim to believe, think or feel, it really is all about them. They are masters at both manipulation and projection. These are survival mechanisms used because they are terrified of feeling inadequate or wrong. Libertarian philosophies appeal to them because they resent working with or depending on people. They may have raw intelligence, but their emotional intelligence is negligible. You would think this would make them useless to a witting manager, but the opposite happens. Because of their stunted empathy, they are capable of doing outrageous things the manager would never do themselves including, but not limited to:

Sending threats /intimidation by email
Pretending to have romantic feelings to get information
Using flattery to build false trust
Lying gratuitously when ever the job calls for it
Exposing their children to this lifestyle
Using minors as decoys
Pretending to be attacked to get sympathy
Making physical threats in person
Lie about people in private or public
Passing information on to stalkers

Simple narcissism doesn’t explain all these behaviors. There are plenty of benign narcissists. The doing people the above are malignant narcissists. The irony is these people see themselves as radical lone warriors, but are slaves to the very “systems” they claim to abhor.

They get this way by internalizing the values of those in power. If they’re actually part of the upper middle class, or the successful go-getters of their generation, this is at least logical. But such a person will have no pretensions about being radical lone warriors fighting the system. They system is good to them!

But, say an individual who is not part of the “cool kids” has somehow internalized the values of the “cool kids”. Whether through unresolved envy or repeated bullying, they learn the narcissist value that you advance yourself by putting other people down.

We often glorify victims, and assume given power they will not abuse it. This is only true if the victim has access to other positive resources.

Otherwise they learn this is the way the world works. If they have no other resources,--no will, no imagination, no empathy—they will internalize these values. If there is no intervention, they will resent not only being bullied, but the fact they couldn’t bully too. And they will always be hungry for it. Because no matter what religion or politics they claim, at the heart they believe they have a right to tear people apart to build themselves up.

This is aggravated in the depressed individual who may have never felt any satisfaction until they found they could manipulate people. For that individual their narcissism will act like an addiction. The need to feed it is compulsive.

Its important to note these people are sane. The proof? When confronted with real consequences, they will capitulate to a higher authority—the law, police, etc. That is how you know
a: they are not crazy and
b: they know exactly what they are doing.

And since many of them are ego invested in being good people, their capitulation will come with excuses like: “It was all a misunderstanding!”

To a certain extent they are genuinely out of control. The need to manipulate and bully to feel good drives them. They will never apologize and never admit they are wrong on their own.

This emotionally crippled package is of great use to the witting manager if used carefully. They are invested in the status quo. They are terrified of change. Because their empathy is stunted, they are capable of doing many things. Unfortunately, their use is limited by the fact the malignant narcissist is always burning bridges and eventually their past victims will meet up and no amount of dissembling or lies will hide them forever. They are also high maintenance. They must be handled firmly by debt, employment or some other obligation because they literally can't be trusted. If they’re exposed, this cuts both ways, because then the manager is stuck with them. This is IMO the most probable personality that is recruited, convinced, maybe even volunteers, for the worst of harassment.

This may also explain the low competence/creativity/learning curve among the low level disruptors. The internalized philosophy of narcissism coupled with defending the status quo argues against change, adaptation or learning. A consequential weakness is they are a legion of followers. Creativity is limited. We often wonder why these middle disruptors, don’t just hack into truth sites and take them down. Leaving aside the difference between real world hacking and what happens in movies, the witting managers will put off any self respecting computer wiz by their requirement of control. True creativity and absolute control cannot co exist. This model of disruptive operations limits itself to a pool of slightly above average intelligent people of mediocre talents. Conversely, a talented person, especially versed in computers, would be a greater danger to these operations, even if they were witting. Perhaps especially if they were witting...

Following close on the heels of these lost souls are the hapless, the “useful idiot”, who is bound by a misplaced sense of friendship and loyalty. They never know the whole story, and may not have the mental energy or critical thinking skills to see flags that things are not as they seem. If their life is full of disruption, the artificial drama may look and sound normal. These are the people in true crime books who end up convicted for murder because their best friend(the narcissist) convinced them to do it.

Not to be left out are the “normalizers”. They could include any of the above. These would act like a Greek Chorus to the leader/celebs.

“Leaders” can be witting or sincere celebrity types surrounded by sycophants in the above categories. A bit like at school where good popular kids are surrounded by a cloud of nasty hangers on who keep them from mingling. This could explain the “what problem” syndrome some “leaders” in 911 truth have.

But leaders who are witting “normalizers”, know their role is to normalize unacceptable behavior then dismiss it as not serious. To mock concerns if they can get away with it. Of all the roles this one is the most blatant betrayal of trust. These are the very people anyone would logically turn to to solve serious problems like harassment, intimidation and stalking. Instead they say ignore it, or “its not important” or they blame the victim for being targeted because they were doing what activists do—getting out there and taking a stand. The naive ones may ask around for advice, feeling that something is wrong, but of course they are surrounded by the nasty cool kids who reassure them its nothing. Just some unimportant drama. Ignore it, it’ll go away.

And the exhortations to ignore a problem because louder the closer anyone comes to the source of the problem. Its as a crude compass—the louder people known to behave or be complicit in unacceptable behavior deny there is anything wrong, getting nearly hysterical about “don’t give them any attention”, the more certain you’re close to something about to be exposed.

A final note on observed disruptive behavior: some object to this model thinking these people can’t be part of a deliberate scheme because they don’t get along or they disagree about issues. But on closer examination, their disagreement is facile. They can adopt phony view points to support a strategy of appearing to disagree, giving their arguments more credibility.

For example, if you find a “debunker” claiming all truthers are nasty liars and internet stalkers like X person, but when X person lies and stalks, the debunker backs them up—well, one shouldn’t need to draw a diagram. One or the other party—possibly both—is a phony. They’ve cynically adopted these positions to act like a tag team. A real person who was really appalled by lies and stalking, wouldn’t support or help spread the work of X persom.

When one can reasonably assume the parties are all on the same side, but have a falling out, the falling out can be simple stage management: for many reasons it might be decided the parties need to appear to not be working together. And sometimes a falling out is genuine for the most boring reason: office politics. The best of people with the best intentions disagree during the best of times. One can only imagine the conniving and backstabbing that flourishes just beneath the surface in a group dominated by malignant narcissists.

The Hidden Cost of 30 pieces of Silver

(after taking Mohinder's gun and punching him in the nose) You lie to me. Betray me. You come after my daughter. (cocks gun) How did you think it was gonna end? ~Noah

Its worth looking at the cost of living a lifestyle based on deliberate deceit. Clandestine activity takes its toll on participants the best of times. Like the priesthood, very few people are built for long term counterintelligence, even if we assume the best of intentions and every effort to avoid harm to innocent parties.

So what does that mean for people who embrace being “bad guys”, whatever their excuse, and live it, day in day out? We include everyone from the witting manager to the pawns who may not know all the reasons why they’re asked to do this and that, but know the golden rule enough to know they break it regularly without hesitation. What is the price?

Its not pretty.

I will not say this man is an agent or part of a disruption operation. I have no proof of that; it would be irresponsible. But the facts are his actions and activities have been disruptive and malignant:

He has hosted people on his radio show with a history of slander, stalking, and harassment.
He tried to “normalize” or excuse Webster Tarply’s attacks on Cindy Sheehan and other 911 activists in the wake of the Kennebunkport Hoax.
It is suspected he assisted in passing on information to known stalkers.
He ran a dishonest joke of a campaign, with 911truth given prominence, managed by a repeat DUI offender;
And finally was disgraced by arrest on charges of domestic violence.

This personal breakdown did not happen overnight. No doubt there were issues unrelated to his 911 activities that factored in as stressors. But the fact remains this individual engaged in or excused some of the worst disruptive behavior in 911 activism, behavior that directly attacked or threatened people. He made a career out of excusing the inexcusable and it ultimately broke him as a person.

The witting managers should look carefully: this is their future.

It is documented that professionals in fields that use these skills legitimately, burn out, have high divorce rates and are prone to nervous breakdowns under extreme stress. Those are the (mostly) good cops, soldiers, lawyers, ER techs and anyone else in a high risk emotionally stressed job. But whatever personal hardships they have are mitigated knowing they are trying to help people. For that alone they will always have social support in some form. They will always have the inner satisfaction they have tried to make the world a better place. This knowledge will sustain them through whatever shite life throws their way.

The volunteer narcissist “disruption league” can’t say the same. Even the “useful idiots” have an inkling something is wrong when they are asked to convince webmasters to ban people for spurious reasons. The semi-witting person who is angry they have lost control of their charge has even less excuse; they know they are being vindictive. And the witting manager must go through neurosis inducing rationalization to back these actions up, or have lost any self-respect ages ago.

And so we come to the truth of these people: They are full of self loathing. They hate themselves. You cannot deliberately lie, slander, betray and set people up, who have done you no harm without becoming morally bankrupt. The longer someone lives this way, the more habituated they become to lying gratuitously, manipulation for the fun of it, power games for the rush, the more certain they are creating a future where they will be alone and friendless.

It shows after a while. Strangers can see it in the eyes and the way these people carry themselves. Unless they have an abundance of charm, they advertise they are not to be trusted by a coldness one can’t put a finger on. They become like vampires, literally sucking energy from anyone they can to fill the dead hole their heart has become.

That’s the hidden cost of thirty pieces of silver.

Where do we go from here?

“Save the cheerleader, save the world.” ~Hiro

At the end of the day, everything we’re trying to do is to help people. Make a better world. Bring some justice. Make things right. To do that with any heart and soul, we have to take care of the least of us. Society is human beings taking care of each other. It is not a bunch of individuals just out for themselves. Social responsibility says we take care of the least of us until they can take care of themselves. That’s what makes it worth being human. That’s what makes you human. That’s also what makes heroes.

It is a sad commentary on the current state of affairs that basic human decency has become “heroic”. But thanks to lax leadership, rampant abuse, outright manipulation, “heroic” measures are needed for a while. Just remember, “heroic” activism is not a healthy norm. No one wants to be the “thought police” (another dismissive attempt by “normalizers” to discourage responsible behavior). We need to build a movement where the values of accountability and responsibility to the standards of human decency within activism are enforced by an agreement on ethics. Then everyone is a hero and no heroic activism is needed. That means anything that hurts or threatens people will be confronted, including but not limited to:

Spam email lists
Harassment or threats to personal safety
Any attempt at or duplication of privacy invasion
Slander or spreading slander about activists, 9/11witnesses or survivors

Anyone repeated engaged in the above actions, should be confronted with evidence, not opinion. If they have no good explanation and refuse to acknowledge the problem, they should be noted as someone who cannot be trusted. Trusted website administrators should be warned, with evidence of their antics. It isn’t about free speech, its about protecting activists and proving we can be trusted to stand for something.

If this is not done, the very moral authority the 911truth movement rests on will crumble. If we can’t take care of and protect our own, its ridiculous to think we can hold anyone outside of 911 truth accountable, much less the criminals behind the murder of 3,000 civilians.

The greatest advantage we have over the witting managers of disruption is evolution. We’ve learned from our successes and failures, adapted to the changing environment, while they’ve stayed mired and ossified protecting their precious status quo.

On the other hand, those of us who have “evolved”, by definition are creative problem solvers. Its one of our “powers”. If it wasn’t, we wouldn't still be here. Thanks to the “villains”, we’ve been tested. We’ve gone through the fire and didn’t get burned(too much). And we are still here. We aren’t going away.

But we should be mindful some of the “villains” haven’t quite left the stage. A few are laying low waiting it out. Others are cynically trying to rebuild reputations covering current tragedies, hoping to buy back everything sold for thirty pieces of silver, pretending the past isn’t with us.

But it is. That’s how we change, grow improve—learning from the past. Evolving. Adapting. Using our power to help people. We’ve forgotten what we can do in 9/11 truth when we have no disruption. Its time to get back to it.

911truth: Accountability within is needed for success outside

There is good and there is evil. Right and wrong. Heroes and villains. And if we're blessed with wisdom, then there are glimpses between the cracks of each where light streams through. We wait in silence for these times when sense can be made, when meaningless existence comes into focus, and our purpose presents itself. And if we have the strength to be honest, then what we find there, staring back at us, is our own reflection, bearing witness to the duality of life. And each one of us is capable of both the dark and the light, of good and evil, of either, of all. And destiny, while marching ever in our direction, can be rerouted by the choices we make. By the love we hold onto, and the promises we keep.
~Mohinder

There are many worthy tasks in 911 truth. All sincere efforts to bring the truth of 911 to the public and hold those responsible for the murder of 3000 people should be supported. But none of these efforts will have a chance if we can’t hold members in 911turth accountable for behavior that would not be acceptable anywhere, much less among activists demanding accountability. Unless we can walk our talk, we don’t have a chance in hell.

We will rarely know with certainty who is "cointelpro", but we don’t need to. All we need to do is challenge disruptive behavior when it happens. People attacked instead of their arguments, investigating private people’s lives, instead of their work; calls to hunt people down, calling activists terrorists or challenges to their privacy, while ignoring the substance of what they have to say, and the snitch jacketing cliché, leading with the accusation of “agent” with no proof—these are the signs of disruption. Whether its cultivated or free range it doesn’t matter. Anyone who tried to justify this as “seeking truth” is anathema to 911 activism.

It won’t be easy. The entrenched “normalizers” will resist evolution to the end. It will not be easy but the status quo was doomed anyway.

Let's bury it. Challenge anyone who defends it at the expense of the safety and well being of real people. Unfortunately the movement is not healthy enough that these attacks can be ignored, trusting "someone in charge" will "do something". Each of us is that "someone". Whatever you do--research, outreach, actions, petitions--none of it will matter if we can't take a moment to take time to take care of people when they need it.

So--when the time comes-- are you ready to demand accountability within 911truth? Are you ready to be a hero?

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Comment by steve collier	8/29/2009
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